Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after all.

Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI one.
However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.

I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on what
could be wrong?

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

giggle the cable?
hit it?

“Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after all.
>
> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
one.
> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>
> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
what
> could be wrong?
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

“Tony Ranieri” <Tonywd@woogu.com> wrote in message
news:b7oeqe$m7q$1@www.darklock.com
> giggle the cable?
Did that. Tried replacing the cable as well.
> hit it?

Monitor or computer? Well, I hit both just in case. Doesn’t help :frowning:

> “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
> news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> > A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> > After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
all.
> >
> > Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer
it
> > acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> > Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP
slot
> > and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
> one.
> > However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
> >
> > I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> > now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
> what
> > could be wrong?
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

Have you tried a different cable?

Gary Stein

“Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
news:b7om4n$u1k$1@www.darklock.com
>
> “Tony Ranieri” <Tonywd@woogu.com> wrote in message
> news:b7oeqe$m7q$1@www.darklock.com
> > giggle the cable?
> Did that. Tried replacing the cable as well.
> > hit it?
>
> Monitor or computer? Well, I hit both just in case. Doesn’t help :frowning:
>
> > “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in
message
> > news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com…[color=darkred]
> > > A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP[/color]
slot.[color=darkred]
> > > After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
> all.
> > >
> > > Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer
> it
> > > acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> > > Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP
> slot
> > > and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
> > one.
> > > However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
> > >
> > > I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using[/color]
right[color=darkred]
> > > now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
> > what
> > > could be wrong?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

Yep
“Gary Stein” <gestein@cnw.com> wrote in message
news:b7oqu9$3fi$1@www.darklock.com
> Have you tried a different cable?
>
> Gary Stein
>
> “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
> news:b7om4n$u1k$1@www.darklock.com
> >
> > “Tony Ranieri” <Tonywd@woogu.com> wrote in message
> > news:b7oeqe$m7q$1@www.darklock.com…[color=darkred]
> > > giggle the cable?
> > Did that. Tried replacing the cable as well.
> > > hit it?
> >
> > Monitor or computer? Well, I hit both just in case. Doesn’t help :frowning:
> >
> > > “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in
> message
> > > news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> > > > A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP
> slot.
> > > > After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot[/color]
after
> > all.[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > > Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the[/color]
computer
> > it[color=darkred]
> > > > acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check[/color]
Signal[color=darkred]
> > > > Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP
> > slot
> > > > and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a[/color]
PCI[color=darkred]
> > > one.
> > > > However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video[/color]
card.[color=darkred]
> > > >
> > > > I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using
> right
> > > > now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas[/color]
on[color=darkred]
> > > what
> > > > could be wrong?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

Have you tested the AGP card with another computer? (I know you said
monitor, but what about the card…?)

Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after all.
>
> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI one.
> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>
> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on what
> could be wrong?
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

If two different cards (he tried AGP and PCI) do not work, I would
assume it is a motherboard problem or software problem. I’d sugest that
you check the BIOS settings to see if there is anything set weird in
there for the video stuff.

  • Gilby

Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
> Have you tested the AGP card with another computer? (I know you said
> monitor, but what about the card…?)
>
> Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
>
>> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
>> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
>> all.
>>
>> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
>> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
>> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
>> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
>> one.
>> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>>
>> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
>> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
>> what
>> could be wrong?
>>
>>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

You know I have a viewsonic monitor that just won’t work right with my
PC. It works with other PCs, as a matter of fact when I sent it in to
Viewsonic for them to fix it, they sent it back untouched because there
was nothing wrong with it.

But it just won’t work right with the GeForce3 card I’ve got in my Asus
motherboard… the red flickers in and out annoyingly.

Strangely enough I upgraded the video drivers recently and now the
flicker happens less often… still there but less.

Gilby wrote:
> If two different cards (he tried AGP and PCI) do not work, I would
> assume it is a motherboard problem or software problem. I’d sugest that
> you check the BIOS settings to see if there is anything set weird in
> there for the video stuff.
>
> - Gilby
>
> Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
>
>> Have you tested the AGP card with another computer? (I know you said
>> monitor, but what about the card…?)
>>
>> Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
>>> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the
>>> computer it
>>> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
>>> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP
>>> slot
>>> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a
>>> PCI one.
>>> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>>>
>>> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
>>> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas
>>> on what
>>> could be wrong?
>>>
>>>
>>
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

Is there a way to check the BIOS without the monitor? I thought it could
only be accessed with F10 (or F2)

Yevgeniy
“Gilby” <mail@gilby.com> wrote in message
news:b7p1a0$a45$1@www.darklock.com
> If two different cards (he tried AGP and PCI) do not work, I would
> assume it is a motherboard problem or software problem. I’d sugest that
> you check the BIOS settings to see if there is anything set weird in
> there for the video stuff.
>
> - Gilby
>
> Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
> > Have you tested the AGP card with another computer? (I know you said
> > monitor, but what about the card…?)
> >
> > Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> >> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
> >> all.
> >>
> >> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer[/color]
it[color=darkred]
> >> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> >> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP[/color]
slot[color=darkred]
> >> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
> >> one.
> >> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
> >>
> >> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using[/color]
right[color=darkred]
> >> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
> >> what
> >> could be wrong?
> >>
> >>
> >
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

It doesn’t have an on board video that it might have defaulted to does it?

When you call dell they don’t care that the computer no longer works?

When you turn on your comptuer is anything happening at all? Does the
processor get warm? Do fans spin…hard drive…etc?


Adam Gordon
SBA Design - web development and hosting


adam@sbadesign.com

“Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after all.
>
> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
one.
> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>
> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
what
> could be wrong?
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

> It doesn’t have an on board video that it might have defaulted to does it?
I don’t think it does, at least it came with a separate video card. Any way
to check?

> When you call dell they don’t care that the computer no longer works?

I didn’t buy an extended warranty. Under the limited warranty, they can take
a look but

  1. I have to pay shipping
  2. It may take up to 4 weeks
  3. They don’t guarantee integrity of the data on the drive

> When you turn on your comptuer is anything happening at all? Does the
> processor get warm? Do fans spin…hard drive…etc?

Yes, everything else seems to work, or at least sounds as it does.

> –
> Adam Gordon
> SBA Design - web development and hosting
> http://www.sbadesign.com
> adam@sbadesign.com
>
> “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
> news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> > A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> > After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
all.
> >
> > Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer
it
> > acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> > Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP
slot
> > and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
> one.
> > However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
> >
> > I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> > now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
> what
> > could be wrong?
> >
> >
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

> > It doesn’t have an on board video that it might have defaulted to does
it?
> I don’t think it does, at least it came with a separate video card. Any
way
> to check?

Yes, easily. Can you plug in your monitor anywhere else on the back of the
computer?

> I didn’t buy an extended warranty. Under the limited warranty, they can
take
> a look but
> 1) I have to pay shipping
> 2) It may take up to 4 weeks
> 3) They don’t guarantee integrity of the data on the drive

You shoudl be able to disconnect the hard drive and ship it without it. You
can ask them on the phone first if you wanted. I haven’t had much
experience with Dell. But at work we have a lot of Gateways, and when we
ship laptops back to them we take the hard drive out, and usually the
battery…etc. They don’t need any of that to test out the video card
problem, as there would be something to display right when it’s turned on.


Adam Gordon
SBA Design - web development and hosting


adam@sbadesign.com

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

“Adam Gordon” <adam@sbadesign.com> wrote in message
>
> Yes, easily. Can you plug in your monitor anywhere else on the back of
the
> computer?

Doh! No, I don’t have an onboard card.

> You shoudl be able to disconnect the hard drive and ship it without it.
You
> can ask them on the phone first if you wanted. I haven’t had much
> experience with Dell. But at work we have a lot of Gateways, and when we
> ship laptops back to them we take the hard drive out, and usually the
> battery…etc.

Hmm, good tip, I will ask regarding taking out the HD.

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

If it is in fact a motherboard problem, are Dell’s motherboard’s replaceable
by non - Dell ones? I looked at the board and got an impression that it
would be quite difficult to remove.

“Gilby” <mail@gilby.com> wrote in message
news:b7p1a0$a45$1@www.darklock.com
> If two different cards (he tried AGP and PCI) do not work, I would
> assume it is a motherboard problem or software problem. I’d sugest that
> you check the BIOS settings to see if there is anything set weird in
> there for the video stuff.
>
> - Gilby
>
> Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
> > Have you tested the AGP card with another computer? (I know you said
> > monitor, but what about the card…?)
> >
> > Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> >> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
> >> all.
> >>
> >> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer[/color]
it[color=darkred]
> >> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> >> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP[/color]
slot[color=darkred]
> >> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
> >> one.
> >> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
> >>
> >> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using[/color]
right[color=darkred]
> >> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
> >> what
> >> could be wrong?
> >>
> >>
> >
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

My past experience with Dell machines is that they use non-standard
connections to the power supply and thus if you want to change the
Motherboard you have to also change the power supply. That was about 5 years
ago I do not know if they still do that or not.

Gary Stein

“Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
news:b7u332$k98$1@www.darklock.com
> If it is in fact a motherboard problem, are Dell’s motherboard’s
replaceable
> by non - Dell ones? I looked at the board and got an impression that it
> would be quite difficult to remove.
>
>
> “Gilby” <mail@gilby.com> wrote in message
> news:b7p1a0$a45$1@www.darklock.com
> > If two different cards (he tried AGP and PCI) do not work, I would
> > assume it is a motherboard problem or software problem. I’d sugest that
> > you check the BIOS settings to see if there is anything set weird in
> > there for the video stuff.
> >
> > - Gilby
> >
> > Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > Have you tested the AGP card with another computer? (I know you said
> > > monitor, but what about the card…?)
> > >
> > > Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> > >
> > >> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP[/color]
slot.[color=darkred]
> > >> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after
> > >> all.
> > >>
> > >> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the[/color]
computer
> it[color=darkred]
> > >> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check[/color]
Signal[color=darkred]
> > >> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP
> slot
> > >> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a[/color]
PCI[color=darkred]
> > >> one.
> > >> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video[/color]
card.[color=darkred]
> > >>
> > >> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using
> right
> > >> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas[/color]
on[color=darkred]
> > >> what
> > >> could be wrong?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

Problem fixed

“Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after all.
>
> Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
> acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
> and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
one.
> However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>
> I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
what
> could be wrong?
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

What was the problem? How did you fix it?

Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> Problem fixed
>
>
> “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in message
> news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
>
>>A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
>>After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after all.
>>
>>Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer it
>>acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
>>Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP slot
>>and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
>
> one.
>
>>However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
>>
>>I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
>>now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
>
> what
>
>>could be wrong?
>>
>>
>
>
>

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

My lamp which I have connected to the same outlet short-circuited (I was not
aware of this as I use the lamp rarely). The charge was mostly stopped by
the surge protector, preventing it from frying the computer, but some of it
got through.
At the end, the problem was solved by taking out the battery which powers
the BIOS, letting it discharge for about 5 minutes and putting it back in. I
lost the BIOS settings but they were easy to restore.

Eugene
“Shena Delian O’Brien” <shena@darklock.com> wrote in message
news:3EA40AF2.5060209@darklock.com
> What was the problem? How did you fix it?
>
> Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> > Problem fixed
> >
> >
> > “Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy” <webmaster@animationlibrary.com> wrote in
message
> > news:b7o8vs$g8h$1@www.darklock.com
> >[color=darkred]
> >>A few days ago I posted a message regarding a problem with an AGP slot.
> >>After further research, looks like it might not be the AGP slot after[/color]
all.[color=darkred]
> >>
> >>Basicly, the problem is that when I connect my monitor to the computer[/color]
it[color=darkred]
> >>acts as if it is not connected to anything, displaying a “Check Signal
> >>Cable” message. At first I thought that the problem was with the AGP[/color]
slot[color=darkred]
> >>and after trying two AGP video cards, I went ahead and purchased a PCI
> >
> > one.
> >
> >>However, I am having exactly the same problem with the PCI video card.
> >>
> >>I tested the monitor with a different computer (the one I am using right
> >>now) and it works perfect, so the problem is with the PC. Any ideas on
> >
> > what
> >
> >>could be wrong?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>[/color]

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

That is the strangest most non-linear problem I have ever heard. I would
never have figured that out if it had been mine!

Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> My lamp which I have connected to the same outlet short-circuited (I was not
> aware of this as I use the lamp rarely). The charge was mostly stopped by
> the surge protector, preventing it from frying the computer, but some of it
> got through.
> At the end, the problem was solved by taking out the battery which powers
> the BIOS, letting it discharge for about 5 minutes and putting it back in. I
> lost the BIOS settings but they were easy to restore.

Re: Computer Problem - may be AGP, maybe motherboard

I had no clue either. I showed the computer to a friend, an electric
engeneering major, and he figured out in about 10 mins.

“Shena Delian O’Brien” <shena@darklock.com> wrote in message
news:3EA5677C.1030706@darklock.com
> That is the strangest most non-linear problem I have ever heard. I would
> never have figured that out if it had been mine!
>
> Yevgeniy Leshchinskiy wrote:
> > My lamp which I have connected to the same outlet short-circuited (I was
not
> > aware of this as I use the lamp rarely). The charge was mostly stopped
by
> > the surge protector, preventing it from frying the computer, but some of
it
> > got through.
> > At the end, the problem was solved by taking out the battery which
powers
> > the BIOS, letting it discharge for about 5 minutes and putting it back
in. I
> > lost the BIOS settings but they were easy to restore.
>