today is the 7th anniversary of colunbine, with all the pot threads i decided to make another thread about the day, and since none of us knew each other back then, lets talk about it, like what you were doing and stuff,
truthfully i dont remember much about it, as i was like 9, so yeah,
All I know is I was in Virginia when it happened, but I was a youngun too, so I don’t really remember either…
I remember that i really didnt care much, but i did, cause it didnt happen where i lived, but the fact that it did happen, then at school i was like “what if the person next to me had a gun?” and kinda thought how easily stuff like that happen at my school.
Sure am glad that hasnt happened though =p
i just rememberd, i saw today, that like some kids were arrested, for planning this same thing, and they wrote about it on there website, but the cops didnt belive them until they found some guns and amo and knives in there room
i was in 6th grade, and i remember it because i got in a butt load of trouble when i laughed in class as one of the kids running from the building almost fell down and got himself shot by the cops when his pants started sliding off. the incident itself wasn’t funny, but c’mon, i was in 6th grade, cut me a break the kid was about to lose his pants.
(i do not condone shooting guns at people)
the kids who did it had some damn good reasons though, they gott bullied (read: severe @$$ beating) everyday, and one day one of the bullies made them eat dog poop. i blame the administration and faculty of columbine. i think the principal and superintendent should have been put on trial for looking the other way.
I was in highschool when it happened and used to wear an old swiss army coat to school (which is like a wool trenchcoat.) Being in highschool when that happened was DAMN annoying, everyone freaked out. I had to start wearing a different coat.
There were several school shootings the year before columbine, including one guy who shot a shotgun down a crowded hallway and managed to miss EVERYONE. The general reaction among me and most of my friends when columbine happened was first “Wow, someone finally did it right” and then “Well, what did those people expect? You can’t pick on someone that much and expect nothing to happen.”
Every single one of my good friends in highschool (and my fiance when she was in her different highschool) fantasized about how best to go on a killing spree at school. We even had conversations about it at lunch. It was a popular and stress relieving mental excersize. Our scenarios were elaborate, named certain targets (we had to take out the ex-marine western civ teacher first, etc) and a lot of fun. We were suprised as hell that someone actually went and did it, but we definately understood their motivaitions.
The step between joking about it and actually doing it is HUGE however. None of us were never even near taking that step. They must have had it really bad to go from fantasy to action.
In Colorado all the schools were put on lockdown. It sucked because my friends and I were going to go fight crime and take down the shooters… That’s how 4th graders think.
My teacher at the time had a son at Columbine High and he was arrested during the investigation for supplying one of the guns to Eric and Dillon.
And my biology teacher freshman year (Mr. Craft) taught at Columbine but then transferred after the shootings. He taught at Columbine when the creators of South Park went there and they portray him as the principal on the show (The “MMM K” guy).
the creators of south park went to the same school?
and they went to colenbine.
i dont rember that part
Yeah, sorry, it’s a missconception that Matt went. I guess my info was false. And it’s Columbine.
My highschool banned trenchcoats shortly afterwards. I remember thinking the gothic kids looked cold standing around the halls without their coats on.
I also remember earlier that year (my sophomore year) they held a computer technology expo in the commons area after school. One of the exhibits was four computers networked together playing the game Quake…in a virtual arena that was an exact map of our school! One of the math teachers had helped set it up. No one thought anything of it then. hmm.
I dont know when it happend but as soon as i heard about columbine I started to be really paranoid of every one
Good thinking. The whole thing was a dress code issue. 
hmmm… I wonder why your memory’s failing?
You guys are scary. Exactly how much bullying makes it okay to murder people and terrorize/traumatize everyone in your school? Help me understand.
As for me, I don’t remember what I was doing when I heard about it, but I do remember being reminded how glad I was to be out of school.
I never said it was OK. I said it was understandable. Every monster starts out a victim.
where in virginia?
Nothing justifies evil acts, but it is often possible (and useful) to explain them in terms which show that the person committing the actions had reason at that moment to feel that his (or her) actions were justifiable in those circumstances.
Without understanding the processes that lead to evil acts, our only hope is prevention by compulsion - and that will always carry a risk of failure.
Mixed up bullied kids with their heads full of pseudo-philosophical crap, brought up to believe they have an inalienable right to the pursuit of happiness, long before they are old enough to understand what happiness is, or that pursuit is not the same as possession…
Or terrorists, fueled by a hatred of an economically and militarily dominant western culture that stands for everything that their own culture believes to be wrong…
Or young Palestinians who feel oppressed, and see no legitimate avenue or mechanism to deal with that oppression, so they turn to martyrdom…
Socrates argued that no man does what he knows to be wrong. Committing an evil act is therefore an manifestation of ignorance of the right way to behave in a given situation.
Sartre argued that the only proof of what a man really believes is what a man chooses to do (not say) when faced with a choice. It follows from this that what the man does is what (at that moment) he believes to be right and justifiable in those circumstances.
If a society produces people who demonstrate a belief that in some circumstances it is appropriate to kill randomly, then there is a significant problem at some level in that society.
I’d hazard a guess that the problems include:
- Bearing arms is a constitutional right, whereas free medical care isn't, which shows something of the country's priorities.
- The widespread glamorisation of disenchanted youth, and premature death.
- The segregation of society horizontally by age group, which makes the primary field of social interaction one's own peers - which encourages bullying. Traditional societies have always been structured so that each generation aspires to be accepted by the generation that precedes it. In modern western society each person aspires to acceptance within his own age group, or a younger age group.
I didn’t even know it happened until like…three years after it did…and then I was just like… “Oh…ok.”
I can remember similar discussions when I was in high school (Class of 1971) but certainly we all knew it was just make believe. We thought nothing of it for someone to have a pocket knife or even a sharp knife in their lunch and we never thought of using the knife against a person. I never knew anyone to bring a gun but with all the “country” kids driving to school, I am sure there were guns in some of the cars. Of course, this was back in the days when there was a designated “smoking room” for the boys. The worst fight I ever saw in school involved a guy who used his belt and a big heavy buckle.
America’s greatest domestic injustice, IMHO. Illinois now has free health care for minors…I guess it’s a start.
One more remembrance so as not to threadjack:
Rumors spread that a similar rampage was scheduled to hit our school May 10th that same year. The admin decided to have school that day anyway because they were sure the rumor was false (which it was). Nonetheless, over half the student body was absent that day, even though many teachers purposely scheduled tests and offered extra credit for coming! I, for one, went to school as usual (I definately needed the extra credit…sometimes you have to weigh the risks ).