Hey I was just wondering how many unicyclists out there are christians- I have seen a couple floating about on the forums but i have no idea! I go to a church near my house where so many people ride is now normal if people are riding up and now the aisle before and after church! the way church should be!
peace out
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Christian Unicyclists
Yep, I’m a Christian though its less normal to see people unicycling to my church. I don’t know if you have of heard of Dustin Kelm already but this site says a bit about him:
http://www.passageway.org/popculture/dustinkelm.asp
Tim
I am not a christian but i know alot of people in the u.s.a who use unicyclist seem to be.
Ben
I am a christian as well. once again, not normal to see people riding up and down the aisles lol, but maybe some day.
Kevin
I too am a Christian unicyclists. It would be cool to get a group of people together and put on a show and then give a message afterwords. Just a thought.
I don’t care to see your post on christianity in forums for unicycling. You seem to infect every facet of our lives with your nonsensical fables and inane morals. Say what you will about me, I’m not bitter and I have not been let down in life… I choose to view and understand life through reason, not outdated texts written by men to control other men and especially women. God is dead. If the human race is to progress we must dump your outdated codes. I speak not only of christianity (which I detest the most for its ability and intent to manipulate, poison and strip identity on a widespread scale) but islam, judaism and all the like. god is great bla bla bla. god loves you bla bla bla. You don’t know that. I don’t know that. Just try to think for yourselves; please….the world would be a much better place!!! Religion is a crutch; a grownup for grownups. For the adults: question what you have chosen to believe and why. For the children: You play the most important roll in all this. Question what you are told. Adults lie! Most of the time they don’t even know themselves. Read. Take care all. I hope I upset some of you out there as you have upset me constantly. You hide behind a curtain in our society that makes it difficult to confront you, but I don’t care anymore. And I hope that others out there who believe just as I do will now consider speaking out. Next time someone brings up religion, simply tell them to keep it to themselves. Good day.
-Thomas
No, Thomas, you didn’t upset me. But you have created a great need in my heart to pray for you. I promise that I shall.
I, too, am a Christian who would love to belong to a church that has people riding around before (or during) a service! Long live the unicycle!
Well tom i think your an ass,I am not a christian but , being like that is just dumb somepeople believe in god and if they do, that’s up to them i have never taken the piss out of some one due to what they believe becuase thats just wrong and out of order!Hell they might even be right who no’s have you died latey?!?!?!?!
Ben
Wow. I kind of agree with roastedpeanuts in terms of his beliefs, but I would never deliberately attempt to hurt people so badly as he just did.
What a poohead.
Two things: (1) don’t pray for me and (2) thinkuniking, you missed the point. You say you don’t care what other people do, it’s their prerogative….well it affects your everyday life!!! You honestly think that local, state and governmental laws aren’t influenced by their moral codes? And these laws are not in the best interest of ALL despite what you may think. Science is also affected. Look into it. What do you say about the radical muslim fundamentalist. They are just doing their thing right? Until a bomb blows off your legs and kills you mom and dad…all in the name of religious beliefs. Celebrate the life we live in….not the prospects of an afterlife. And most of all celebrate observational reason. I’m not going to call you a fool as you have me because I don’t spread hate; and most of all I would like you to think for yourself… not focus on calling names. Peace
-Thomas
“Celebrate the life we live in….not the prospects of an afterlife.”
True… I don’t beleive in “building a futur” (on a personnal level)
because the future never comes. “what about tommorow? isin’t that the future?”
“yes, but are we tommorow?”
“umm,no?”
“tommorow will we be tommorow?”
“umm, no?”
“exactly”
but don’t you think that there’s something more to living than just rejoicing in material goods?
Since this life really has no apparent goal or meaning, I picture it as a waiting room, something in between other things…catch my drift?
Thomas, you strike me as a militant agnostic: “I don’t know and you don’t ethier!” Just chill, having a born-again Christian President sucks, but hopefully he’ll be out soon.
I am an oppurtunistic agnostic. If there’s an afterlife, I don’t really feel like being screwed because I was arrogant enough to think that there wasn’t. But, since there’s also a good chance that this is all I get, I make no attempt to limit my life by following all biblical laws and losing 2 hours of every Sunday of my life. Not to mention that technically I’m a dysfunctional Jew, so I make no attempt to waste every Saturday of my life. I heard a story from my Orthodox great uncle: It was the Sabbath, and his wife’s orthodox sewing group was just relaxing and talking about stuff. Thern, one of the women’s baby accidentally hit the radio and turned it on full blare. Since they were all orthodox Jews, they couldn’t even talk about technology. So they had to act like the radio wasn’t there, and couldn’t turn it off. Finally, a non-Jew neighbor complained aboujt the racket and turned it off. They thanked him graciously the next day, explaining the predicament.
I never want to be landed in a predicament like the one above, so I choose to honor the religous laws that I deem to be moral. I don’t care what I eat with my milk and chicken ;). It just doesn’t matter.
Later all.
NOW YOUR JUST BEING A TOTAL ASS!No i don’t think fundamentalists have any right to go around blowing stuff up and killing people!!!
Your just being an ass because i defended some thing!i would hardly say that being a Christian plan and simple Christian is being fundamentalist do you!I really think your looking into this far to much!
I infact believe that the Christian faith is pretty damn cool well some parts are like life after death and also the rules such as thou shall not kill if it was not for Christaity.i dont think life would be the same,i think it would be a totally different world today!
Ben
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Hey–
I come from the rock climbing world, a community big enough to accomodate and welcome all creeds and orientations, including ranters, moralists, hellions, angels and wankers.
Like they say in climbing, at the bottom of the cliffside, all folks cast off as equals. And once you jump on the Uni and start down a grim single track – or simply peddle down the road – all the talk, beliefs and opinions fade away – and that’s the grace of it.
JL
No, I don’t argue just to argue…and I don’t attack you because you don’t support my view. While you speak for “simple christians” , you forget that fundamentalist christian have and do exist. Fundamentalism is a revival movement the seeks to revitalize a faith to its purest form. In doing so people are opressed, hurt and killed. While this draws the most attention, it is the simple folk you defend that are the most dangerous. While not posing a immediate threat like a gushing wound in your abdomen that will kill you by exanguination; it is more of a slow cancer that goes undetected for the most part. Slowly it eats away and poisons the organism undetected until the flare ups and acute symptoms must be delt with (just like fundamentalist movements throughout history). I use horrible imagery because it is appropriate. Look at the history books. This faith you see as “cool” is nothing but a tool. For what you ask. Control. The name of christ has been a justification for the slaughter and rule of people throughout time. Look at the Spanish conquest in Latin and South America for instance (just one in a myriad of examples). All infidels who would not accept god and country (who was doing the divine work of course) were killed without a second though….sound familiar guy? Its going on right now in the world…and at this time in history it comes from the Middle East…I think you know what I’m talking about. So while you speak of simple christians, just know that there are no god motivated genocidal movements at this time…but hey, there’s always the future. Just look to the past. The cancer grows and recedes, but always remains. Just whose turn is it now and whose next? Please, just think a bit. And just know that I AM NOT spreading hate or intolerance…religion already does that for us. Lets end it.
-Thomas
Whoah hold on folks.
I’m an atheist and a secularist, but I believe that people are entitled to hold religious beliefs as long as they don’t expect me to play by their rules.
BUT, I must say that it was entirely predictable that if someone posted something overtly religious in this forum, then someone else would take a pop at them, and a row would start.
This is a unicycle forum. Please, let’s not discuss religion or politics here, because it will only spoil things.
There’s a time and a place. This is neither.
How about, we all shut up because we’re only offending each other? No? Well, just thought I’d make a suggestion…
Somewhat off-topic in an already off-topic thread, but this thread is oddly timely in my own thinking. I belong to a Unitarian Universalist congregation and am an atheist. One of the ongoing debates in our community is among believers and non-believers, the different language that we use and what appropriate forms of expression are. A number of the atheist camp are adament about not using the word god or referring to worship in our community. In my view, while I agree with their world views, I find their tactics to be contrary to the fundamental beliefs of our community that we all must find our own paths and do so in a sharing and mutually encouraging way.
Anyway, as a result of all this I have come to the conclusion that there are such people who might be labeled fundamentalist atheists.
Thomas, does the “ma” in maroastedpeanuts have some significance?
Raphael Lasar
Matawan, NJ
The Ma is actually part of my name…maroastedpeanuts was a nickname I had as a kid. I know this is all off topic from the fun of unicycles…but it is fun in itself…is it not? And it also needs to be said. We are all unicyclist and part of a larger community. So who are we? Hopefully this thread provides a bit of a window. When you get together with your cycling buddies (unicycle, road bike or mountain bike) you cant always talk about the latest handmade frame or new carbon fiber seat base or even which trials unicycle to buy…these are important issues that everyone faces. In response to previous replies…I’m not a militant atheist. In fact, I find the logic of atheism just as flawed as a fundamentalist christian, muslims or other groups. Two opposite ends of the spectrum…same intent. Agnostic simply states that I don’t know, you don’t know….not TERE IS NOTHING! YOU ARE ALL WRONG!! This does not mean that I hold the same view as gerblefranklin who stated: “I am an opportunistic agnostic. If there’s an afterlife, I don’t really feel like being screwed because I was arrogant enough to think that there wasn’t.” This shit has been pressed into our skulls from such a young age that this mentality results. I was in limbo there for a while too. But arrogance? You think there is a god up there judging you like that?!?!?! Know what, if there is then I don’t want to be in HER “heaven”. A bit ago (before my current state of mind) I was witnessed to (several times) by born again christians…what a painful experience and I wish no one to be subjected to such atrocities…but it will continue occur because that’s what they do!! Their goal is to show you the path. How nice right? A socially inept individual trying to show me the path to enlightenment. No thanks. One man told me that in the eyes of god it didn’t matter if I gave to charity or was kind to fellow humans and animals…I was dammed to hell unless I took jesus into my heart. So this is their god that is up there? Doesn’t matter how you behave as long as you agree to suck jesuses dck…then you’ll be granted a spot in the glorious heaven surrounded by all the other oppressive, but enlightened born again christian…sounds like fcking hell to me. Hey, I think I just stumbled onto something. Sure, sure, you say that not all are this extreme. But you’ll be surprised what a few nuts can archive when times are tough and there is a lack of Humanistic solidarity…again look to the past…or better yet the present (the Middle East anyone?). Again, I know what your responses to that may be, but chew on that for a bit. Well, it’s been fun. But I have to go do stuff now. Hope this thread lingers on for a bit…let’s see what people have to say. And yes, people should have the right to pursue their own paths, but it has consistently been the case that religion inhibits those paths. Don’t think so? Look all around you. One final note, we are nothing but fancy animals. People like to think otherwise. The purpose for your dog, cat fish ect. being here is the same as yours…to pass those little ribonucleic acids around.
-Thomas
Actually, animals have “little” DEOXYribonucleic acids. Only viruses and single-celled organisms can have all of their genetic info fit into a few strands of RNA.
As for religion, I didn’t have this drilled into my head. I decided what I believe by my own accord.
The first story I ever heard about religion was this one :
My sister went to school one day in Atlanta, Ga, with a shirt that had flames on it that said “Dykes Form HELL!” She got sent home and ordered to change her shirt. My 2 lesbian moms were furious and went to school saying you couldn’t discriminate against her because she used the word “dyke.” The principal calmly said to them “It’s not the ‘dyke’ part, but the flames and word ‘HELL’. It might offend someone. Sorry.”
This led me to grow up in life laughing at fundamentalists, orthodoxes, and born-agains. “Fine! Pray for me, but get the hell off my front step!” Up until about 5 years ago, my optimism and blind liberalism led me to thinking that no mentaslity like the religous fundamental movement could ever exist in the atheist or agnostic movement. Then, I thought a bit, and noticed that every theology and philosophy has it’s extremestists, such as you, Thomas.
BTW, you’re right, I missapplied agnostic. I meant “militant-atheist” which is a perfect summation of what you are, Thomas. You’re the same thing as a born-again, except you take the opposite stance. You complain about how the religous are muddying society with their laws from the bible, just as born-agains state that social law is being muddied with all those laws that contradict the bible. You’re both extremeists.
If someone feels they need fufillment through the belief in a higher being, fine. That doesn’t mean you have the right to tell them they shouldn’t take that fufillment. Humans need coping mechanisms, and some choose to find it in religion. Others use denial, while you seem to like taking the “lone warrior of truth” stance, where you think you’re the only one correct and that so what if you piss off the rest of the world, you’re correct so no bad consequences should ever fall on you and you should be hailed as a demigod. That justification exists in another extreme: Fundamentalism. Hammas, Al Queda, Ariel Sharon and the Zionists, they’re all the same as you, except they have more guns, longer standing feuds, more enemies, and most important of all, more supporters and members. Doesn’t the irony just bite you in the ass?
Live and Let Live.