I can’t believe you forgot to mention Huricane Katrina and Rita and the most recent earthquake in Pakistan. All of these are the fault of Bush. I actually think he has a machine that can cause these events. Probably developed by a nuclear physicist in Washington in his spare time.
I think Hurricanes Katrina and Rita are the gulf hurricanes, the recent ones at least. I know many nuclear physicists in Washington. Fortunately I am not one of them. The 7.7 earthquake in Pakistan has not yet been blamed on the Dubya but it’s still early in the day and he seems to be a blame magnet. I can’t imagine what an earthquake of that magnitude would do to a city in which most of the structures are not reinforced.
Some of us can do almost anything without permission. This is not the case for the supposed leader of the supposed free world. He is “supposed” to be our instrument and as such his job is to do our bidding. This may not always be the case. Bearing responsibility and bearing blame are somewhat different. By the nature of his position he will assume more responsibility than most. By the nature of our dissatisfaction he will bear more blame than is realistically due. I think Raphael has all the bases covered here by being terse and precise.
isn’t it Rotflmao?
i thougt it was rolling instead of laughing… 
I was thinking Laying, but your version is probably the correct version.
I agree w/the cruel/brutal thoughtout history part.
Re: Bush’s fault
It is the Bush admin’s fault that a HUGE amount of funds have been spent on a falsely advertised war in Iraq. And it is true that the defense and oil industries are making a financial killing since the war started.
It is the Bush admin’s fault that there’s an even HUGER loss of national income, i.e. tax cuts (drastically weighted in favor of the ultra-wealthy) during a time when tax cuts are not prudent.
Those same funds could have been put to better use, IMO, like helping people in crises, of which there seems to be no shortage. Truly, our tax money is being used to create horrible suffering on a scale with any given natural disaster. We may be fighting bad guys, but we’re killing and maiming plenty of children and babies and old people, too.
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steveyo
Kind of like chemotherapy, eh?
Getting involved in something like Darfur is more than just wanting to help and then throwing money at it. It is something that would require military involvement. You can’t just start marching your military across Africa to get to Darfur. You need the cooperation of neighboring countries. You need permission of any countries that you fly over. You’ll need base your operations somewhere so you’ll need the permission of that country. You’ll have to spend political clout and do a lot of diplomacy to get those kinds of agreements. In the process you’re going to make more enemies. Once you start the operation you’re going to make even more enemies. It’s a lot more than just wanting to help. Actually doing it is a very different matter and I don’t see anyone in the world jumping up to take that on.
Firstly, Catboy, I feel honoured that friends can (and want to ) discuss contencious issues of religion and politics in these forums, and yet after it all drop the pretenciousness and go for a ride as perfectly good mates. It reflects well on the type of people that are drawn to the sport of unicycling. Your desire to leave these topics out of the public gaze is just reinforcing the almost accepting nature we now have to discraceful conflicts such as the one bought up by Billythemountain.
Harper, while there is no point in arguing the fact that men will act in evil ways, this does not justify doing nothing to combat it when possible.
It makes me sick to hear some people on these boards stating that because there is nothing in it for the US that the genocide of millions is ok. Hell… so your stating that the fact that the US is protecting it’s oil interests in Iraq is justification for the lives of your armed service men and women- but perhaps even more importantly, the lives of hundreds of thousands innocent Iraqi citizens caught in the crossfire (of whom you have no control of).
However, these criticisms are not aimed at the US in some lefty (oooh wait…dont say it…communist) fashion. An international response to these situations is often the best. But when a world superpower can sidestep the UN to go to war- its9the UN’s) power it severely diminished. The european nations are closer to the conflict and should assist in bringing peace. However, the US as a self proclaimed world superpower and leader should, assist in any means possible to help man- no matter his race, religion, the wealth of the land he stands on. Billythemountain- thanks for sparking lively debate in these forums. I know i will continue to read and take part in them,
Mark
I’m not saying that it’s OK that we’ve done effectively nothing to help Darfur. I’m pointing out why it’s so difficult to do so. My conscience says we should help but what do we do (we as in World). The diplomacy and politics necessary to do something effective is more than the US can muster on its own. It needs to be a global response with global pressure if it’s going to get anywhere. It’s not going to happen by one country going in and doing what’s right because one country alone does not have the clout or the willingness to take the hits.
It used to be “The 7.7 earthquake in California” before Bush outsourced it. I’ll prove it, just give me time.
No, not really.
If a house has some bad guys in it, is it justified to destroy the whole city block around it, complete with innocent lives? To say that’s like chemo is comparing the “collateral” human lives with individual cells.
Regarding Bush, of course, I just asked the question. QUESTION.
Didn’t mean to get your panties in a bunch, Harper. 
Billy
Steveyo:
Don’t be fooled. They know how Bush’s policies and action or inaction contribute to problems in the lives of USA-ers and others. “Hurricane machine” means they are wannabees in Bush’s propaganda machine.
Billy
Ahhh Genocide in the Sudan. Another fine example of the peaceful religion of Islam.
He further wrote:
In 1915, the government of Turkey murdered and consciously caused the deaths of over a million Christian Armenians. During the 30s and 40s, with brutal efficiency, the Nazis annihilated millions of Jews, Christians and others
who did not fit their mold of an “Aryan Race”. Later in the century, the
“civilized” world watched as the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia slaughtered some 2 million of its own people, many, for the simple reason that they wore
glasses. Iraq murdered Kurds (while Iraq was a USA ally). We were witness to Bosnia’s bloodbath, Rwanda, Srebrenica, Kosovo and now, as the killing continues, unabated, we turn the other way while countless native Africans are “cleansed” so the Muslim government of al-Bashir in The Sudan can suck the oil out of its ill-gotten Darfur region.
It is not too late to act; to raise the issue of genocide in Darfur before
it is too late; to pressure the U.S. government to LEAD this country, the
most powerful nation the world has ever known, in stopping the murder of a
helpless, innocent people. Or else “never again”, if it hasn’t already, will
become just another hollow political slogan used as sabre rattling AFTER the
fact. If we aren’t part of the solution, we become part of the problem.
You mean like our starting a preemptive war in Iraq is an example of the peaceful teachings of Christianity? Or our allowing 43 million of our own citizens to have NO health care is an example of how Christ said to value “the least among us”?
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steveyo
“Why be rational and proactive when you can blame someone you call a cowboy?” This is a continuation of the sarcastic theme of the post. We should be rational and proactive and combat evil acts when possible. I should use emoticons to signify instantaneous mood swings but I am battling evil by not doing so.
Yes. We found it substantially less expensive to have this done overseas.
So does that mean you are for another “preemptive” war in the Sudan. Last I checked they weren’t attacking us either. Is there any confilict or war in the world today that doesn’t involve Islam? Just curious.