BMX ETC

logically following the train of thought, should off road unicycling competition
be termed “UNIX” similar to BMX or maybe “MUNIX” My vote goes towards the former

  • UNIX Brian

RE: BMX ETC

> logically following the train of thought, should off road unicycling
> competition be termed “UNIX” similar to BMX or maybe “MUNIX” My vote goes
> towards the former - UNIX

I think UNIX is already taken, as all you computer nerds out there are
surely aware…

I don’t see how you got from BMX to UNIX. How about UMX? I coined that
expression in 1981 for an article in the USA Newsletter about off-roading. Also
it’s listed in our competition rulebooks as UMX, though the races we do are
really not like BMX races, so we should change it to MUni or something else.

I’ve still yet to see a BMX-style unicycle race…

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (reply to jfoss@unicycling.com)
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“UNIX” sounds like “eunuchs” and that is not a good association.

john_childs

>logically following the train of thought, should off road unicycling
>competition be termed “UNIX” similar to BMX or maybe “MUNIX” My vote goes
>towards the former - UNIX Brian
>


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> “UNIX” sounds like “eunuchs” and that is not a good association.

That too.

Hey, what do you call a guy who has been riding way, way too much? … :slight_smile:

jf

Re: BMX ETC

— Brian Berlin <brian@taxmgmtsvcs.com> wrote:
> logically following the train of thought, should off road unicycling
> competition be termed “UNIX” similar to BMX…

Just as long as it isn’t called Windows.

-K.


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> What’s BMX?

It stands for Bimetric Multitasking eXtensions.

jf

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> For a while it was known as UMX, Muni seems to be more popular tho.

I started the usage of UMX, back when BMX was real popular. But MUni (or Rough
Terrain Unicycling, as George Peck would say) is more accurate to describe what
most of us trail riders do, even if it’s not on a mountain. Just as riding a
mountain bike on a trail is still “mountain biking”.

George Peck’s “Rough Terrain” to me is the most accurate description of what we
do, but it just doesn’t roll off the tongue like MUni or Mountain Unicycling.

> Personally I prefer Muni as UMX stands for unicycle motor cross just as BMX is
> bicycle motor cross, neither have motors and I think its right to break away
> from the Motor Cross image.

Actually it’s “Moto”. A “moto” is one of the many heats that are involved in
motocross racing (bicycle or motorcycle). I don’t know the origin of the word
moto though, and it sure sounds like it comes from the motor. But like the
BMXers, we are proud of our motors!

But there seems to be some question in people’s minds what BMX really is. It’s a
series of short heat races on a short and very lumpy course. I lived near a BMX
track in Roseville, and watched heat after heat, with all different age groups,
zipping around the little track. It looked like a fun family activity. Each heat
took less than a minute for the bigger kids. I presume the many heats are used
to narrow riders down to the fastest ones.

> to MTB or Mountain bike , MTB competitions are NEVER called “BMX competition”
> ( at least not in the UK).

Nor here. But BMX is enjoying a resurgence in popularity. That’s nice, but we
still don’t race like that (at least not yet).

> I believe the term Muni was coined by Duncan Castling , can any one else lay
> claim to inventing the term?

I know it came from England. I’m proud to have added the “Weekend” part!

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> Yup MUni was mine I’ve still got the original artworks and cycle articles. I
> actually remember discussing this whole UMX v MUni issue with John Foss at the
> Guilford Unicon. I can’t believe it’s still an issue!

It’s not, at least not to me. We just like talking about this stuff.

> What would you call Mountain Recumbant Uni?

A mistake? Falling on your bum instead of your face?

jf

RE: BMX ETC

> Yeah I agree! If anything were trying to perfect the sport not the name. I
> mean you can call it what ever you want. If you decide to call all
> competitions Muni or Unix or whatever it has no real significance on
> anyone’s life.

Ah, but it does. For the most part you are right, but from a marketing
standpoint, names matter a lot. A name that is “catchy” will attract more
attention, and people will remember it more easily. That’s why associating our
sport with mountain biking has brought us lots of press and attention. At least
that’s how I see it.

Unicycle = circus.

Mountain unicycle = mountain stuff = extreme sports. We hope.

Or maybe it’s just the visual impact of imagining unicycles offroad that
generates the interest. But I think that “mountain” word automatically adds an
extra dimension to the perceived picture of unicycling.

The average person still thinks a unicycle can only be ridden on a perfectly
level surface, and barely at that. The concept of mixing that with a mountain
seems to make people curious.

What we call it has no effect on what it is, but I think it can have a big
impact on how it generates interest. This is why corporations and ad agencies
spend millions trying to figure out product names and taglines.

Let’s see what that stirs up!

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (reply to jfoss@unicycling.com)
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Re: BMX ETC

How about “XTUC” (pronounced “ecstasy”) as a variation from “XUC” XTUC - extreme
terrain unicycling

john_childs

>From: “Kip Koski” <ki@sopris.net>
>
>Touche
>
>Ok good point. I totally agree with your line of reasoning, but tom me it could
>make no difference. Im already in. How about these (Ill list old ones and my
>creations, list any I forgot)
>
>-Muni -UMX -Unix -Munix -ATU -RTU -XU extreme unicycling -mountuni (???) -HTU
>harsh terrain -XUC exetreme unicycling -MUC mountain unicycling -MU -MCycle
>-MUOLHOM mountain unicycling on large hi;; or mountains
>
>Lets try to come upo with something brand new. Get out your thesaurus.


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Re: BMX ETC

In a message dated 00-03-16 15:48:06 EST, you write:

<< A mistake? Falling on your bum instead of your face?

jf >>

I hardly ever laugh out loud when reading email, but this comment made me burst
right out! Youre a funny guy John!

Johnny T :smiley:

Re: BMX ETC

In a message dated 00-03-16 17:29:54 EST, you write:

<< Ah, but it does. For the most part you are right, but from a marketing
standpoint, names matter a lot. A name that is “catchy” will attract more
attention, and people will remember it more easily. That’s why associating our
sport with mountain biking has brought us lots of press and attention. At least
that’s how I see it. >>

If we want to attract more gen. Xer’s, lets just call it “extreme down-hill
hardcore all terrain unicycling” and have Mountain Dew endorse it. X Games
here we come!

Johnny T

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> << A mistake? Falling on your bum instead of your face?
>
> jf >>
>
> I hardly ever laugh out loud when reading email, but this comment made me
> burst right out! Youre a funny guy John!

Yes, but plastic surgery could fix it.

But seriously, a good crash on a recumbent unicycle, if you’re going with a
little speed, should leave you standing upright!

John Foss, the Uni-Cyclone (reply to jfoss@unicycling.com)
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“Downhill sucks.” - George Peck, on the downhill course at NUC '99

RE: BMX ETC

> If we want to attract more gen. Xer’s, lets just call it "extreme down-hill
> hardcore all terrain unicycling" and have Mountain Dew endorse it. X Games
> here we come!

I like it! I can already see David Poznanter in the Mt. Dew shirt.

Now for the hard part. How to get Mountain Dew interested?

jf

Re: BMX ETC

I have a quick question. Has anyone ever taken a unicycle with pegs in the place
of pedals down hill? You could use one foot for a brake as traditionally done,
and reach fast speeds, im sure. Im not sure how safe this would be, but it would
be worth the try if it hasnt already been done, right?

Johnny T :smiley:

RE: BMX ETC

> I have a quick question. Has anyone ever taken a unicycle with pegs in the
> place of pedals down hill? You could use one foot for a brake as traditionally
> done, and reach fast speeds, im sure. Im not sure how safe this would be, but
> it would be worth the try if it hasnt already been done, right?

It takes a lot of braking force to slow a unicycling going downhill. There’s a
limit to how much you get with your hamstrings and the ‘gliding’ position.

I’ve taken a B.C. wheel (pegs, but no fork or seat) down curbs and over some
bumps, but I wouldn’t try it on dirt or down anything but the most gentle slope.

If you mean a paved hill, it could be fun on a “peg uni” with a seat. Make sure
you have some thick soled shoes though…

I have a picture of MUni gliding on my ‘Things not to do’ page:
http://www.unicycling.com/things/default.htm#29

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“Downhill sucks.” - George Peck, on the downhill course at NUC '99

RE: BMX ETC

Further musing on the name…

You older computer types may already know this, but a bit of trivia. The UNIX
single-processing operating system name was a take-off of the Multix (sp?)
multi-processing operating system. Kind of symmetrical, wouldn’t you say? Multix
to Unix | Uni to Muni

I’ve rarely heard the term Yike, but I like that: bicycle abbreviates nicely to
bike. Why not abbreviate unicycle to u-ike, spelled phonically as Yike. Like
someone else said earlier, the uni abbreviation, ending with the long E sound,
is somewhat unappealing. This is coming from someone with the name Tony (or the
formal Anthony–both ending with that same long E sound).

Then I think about the mountain unicycling abbreviation–Yike to Mike–and this
pattern all falls apart.

Tony

-----Original Message----- From: owner-unicycling@winternet.com
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logically following the train of thought, should off road unicycling competition
be termed “UNIX” similar to BMX or maybe “MUNIX” My vote goes towards the former

  • UNIX Brian

Re: BMX ETC

Yes, several people have this. I’ve seen Dan Heaton do some really cool scuffing
tricks with this “glide-a-cycle”.

-Kris.

MoNKeYSPaZ@aol.com wrote:
> I have a quick question. Has anyone ever taken a unicycle with pegs in the
> place of pedals down hill? You could use one foot for a brake as traditionally
> done, and reach fast speeds, im sure. Im not sure how safe this would be, but
> it would be worth the try if it hasnt already been done, right?
>
> Johnny T :smiley:
>


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Re: BMX ETC

In a message dated 00-03-17 15:35:40 EST, John Foss wrote:

<< If you mean a paved hill, it could be fun on a “peg uni” with a seat. Make
sure you have some thick soled shoes though… >>

Well, what about attaching a brake to the unicycle? I know for a fact that has
been done, so that could be something to think about.

Johnny T :smiley:

Re: BMX ETC

----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Berlin <brian@taxmgmtsvcs.com>
To: <unicycling@winternet.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 5:14 PM
Subject: BMX ETC

> logically following the train of thought, should off road unicycling
> competition be termed “UNIX” similar to BMX or maybe “MUNIX”
It has been called UMX for decades. Let’s leave like that.

Alberto Ruiz

> My vote goes towards the former - UNIX Brian
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