Big Wheel Unicycle Questions

What are the factors to consider in the utility of a Big Wheel Unicycle?

Strength: Spokes, rims, size of wheel.

Tom Miller (Unicycle Factory) seems to be the most experienced big wheel builder
in the US. He welds bicycle rims together. How well does this work?

Rideable Bicycle Replicas uses 60 spokes. Is this overkill? On the whole their
unicycle looks more like a museum piece than a useable unicycle.

Coker Tires will use 36 spokes on theirs. At least one rider at Monrovia felt
that their wheel seemed fragile. Could someone build a strong wheel that used
their tire and tube?

Tire: Most use wheelchair rubber. How well does this last? How does it affect
the rideability/comfort?

Size of wheel: Wheels range from 36" and up. What is an “optimal” size for a big
wheel to be useable–not just a novelty?

Thanks,

David Maxfield Seattle

RE: Big Wheel Unicycle Questions

David Maxfield wrote:
>Tom Miller (Unicycle Factory) seems to be the most experienced big wheel
>builder in the US. He welds bicycle rims together. How well
does >this work?

It works very well. I’ve had three different ones, which were all made from old
Schwinn S-7 tubular rims. That means it’s a double walled steel rim which is
heavy, but very durable. Those rims are no longer made, so he has to use lighter
stuff these days.

PLEASE NOTE! In all the recent discussion about big wheels, I don’t think anyone
has mentioned the inherent weakness of large wheels. Even if made of the best
components, a large wheel is going to be more fragile than a small one made with
the same parts. Even with it’s double wall steel rim, my 45" wheel should not be
ridden off curbs, because it could cause flat spots in the rim. A big wheel will
always be “weaker” than a small one.

This means the wheel needs to be treated with respect, and not necessarily used
for rope jumping or hardcore MUni riding. But you can still put lots of miles on
it. My old 45" rode the New York City 5 Boro Bike Tour many times. That’s 36
miles on bumpy, potholed roads with a little brick pavement thrown in. After 12
years of ownership, I had a new wheel made for it, that’s normal wear & tear.

>Rideable Bicycle Replicas uses 60 spokes. Is this overkill? On the whole their
>unicycle looks more like a museum piece than a useable unicycle.

This wheel is supposed to look like an antique, and it looks cool. They don’t
really make unicycles, but will customize their normal bike design into one.
Number of spokes is probably less of a factor than rim strength, axle width and
quality of wheelbuilding.

>Coker Tires will use 36 spokes on theirs. At least one rider at Monrovia felt
>that their wheel seemed fragile. Could someone build a strong wheel that used
>their tire and tube?

The wheel could be built stronger, but I think that wheel will hold up fine if
not abused. You can probably even ride it off curbs, because the air tire will
absorb the shock where the hard wheelchair rubber of my wheel won’t. But the
main area of weakness is lateral. Try not to subject the wheel to unnecessary
side forces like putting weight on the wheel while it’s tilted over to the side.

>Tire: Most use wheelchair rubber. How well does this last? How does it affect
>the rideability/comfort?

Wheelchair rubber is nice because you can ride through a field of broken glass
where ordinary tires fear to “tread”. The rubber lasts a long time (unless you
spin too much) and can sometimes be flipped over and used inside-out when it
wears down. It will never have a blowout. But sometimes you have to worry about
separation, where the two ends of the rubber come apart and create a gap in
your tire.

Rideability is fine, though on a smooth floor there’s hardly any traction.
Comfort is proportional to the riding surface. Brick pavement will test your
tolerance.

>Size of wheel: Wheels range from 36" and up. What is an “optimal” size for a
>big wheel to be useable–not just a novelty?

Any big wheel is a novelty. The question is what do you want to use it for? Old
fashioned bikes had wheels up to 60", depending on the height of the rider. You
should be able to comfortably mount and ride, and your wheel should be able to
fit into wherever you need it to fit, storage-wise. These are probably the most
important considerations. A 40" wheel will fit inside a Volkswagen Bug, but a
45" will not (see http://www.calweb.com/~unifoss/garage/bigwheel.htm).

Crank arm length is another important factor. Most people use cranks that are
too short (in my opinion) for safe, comfortable riding. My 45" has 6.5" cranks,
which I consider to be perfect for that wheel and my leg length. The common 5.5"
cranks on a 40" Unicycle Factory big wheel are too short for me and don’t
provide enough leverage for uphill, quick stops, or even riding into a headwind.

I’ve ridden various sized wheels up to 63.5". The largest ones would only be
good for show, in fact the largest one was at the time the largest one ever
made. But at my height of 6 feet and good riding ability, I’d feel comfortable
cruising around on Ken Fuchs’ 56" wheel, if the cranks were a little longer…

John Foss

RE: Big Wheel Unicycle Questions

I have a Semcycle 40" big wheel and I like it very much.

I feel it is far superior to Tom Miller’s as it has a very light and rigid
tubular frame. And you can probably get one within a month instead of 2 years!

I strongly recommend spending the extra $50 and getting a cotterless hub.
Mine is the square tube top design and is chromed. It is a work of art and a
blast to ride.

The 40" is quite usable. I rode it for most of the 20 mile marathon our club
did. I find it takes more concentration to ride especially as one gets fatigued
but as John suggests, maybe my cranks are too short.

Unfortunately I broke it. I was riding seat out and couldn’t get the seat back
in. Normally I would just roll over the front but I fell directly on the top of
the wheel. I don’t know which hurt more: my crotch, the subsequent body slam to
the street, or the wobble I caused in the rim. I should have quit then, but
this was in a parade and I continued to ride it. The wheel buckled about a mile
later while doing a backspin. I like to link backspins and frontspins together
and I really put a lot of side torque on the wheel. This wheel failure is not
the fault of Semcycle but rather the physics of such a large wheel and the
abuse I give it.

My son won the 36" Coker in the raffle at the NUC. I agree that it looks
fragile as the hub is very narrow. Expect a full report soon as we have a
chance to use it.

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    From: maxfieldd@aol.com[SMTP:maxfieldd@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August
    06, 1998 1:57 PM To: UNICYCLING@winternet.com Subject: Big Wheel
    Unicycle Questions

    What are the factors to consider in the utility of a Big Wheel Unicycle?

    Strength: Spokes, rims, size of wheel.

    Tom Miller (Unicycle Factory) seems to be the most experienced big
    wheel builder in the US. He welds bicycle rims together. How well does
    this work?

    Rideable Bicycle Replicas uses 60 spokes. Is this overkill? On the whole
    their unicycle looks more like a museum piece than a useable unicycle.

    Coker Tires will use 36 spokes on theirs. At least one rider at Monrovia
    felt that their wheel seemed fragile. Could someone build a strong wheel
    that used their tire and tube?

    Tire: Most use wheelchair rubber. How well does this last? How does it
    affect the rideability/comfort?

    Size of wheel: Wheels range from 36" and up. What is an "optimal" size
    for a big wheel to be useable--not just a novelty?

    Thanks,

    David Maxfield Seattle

RE: Big Wheel Unicycle Questions

They are both fun. They serve different purposes.

The Coker is strictly an outdoor cruising street machine. It’s like riding a
Cadillac with all the inherent advantages and disadvantages. You wouldn’t ride
it indoors as I am sure it would really mark up a floor. Spins of any sort are
very difficult as it is very heavy and has a lot of friction with the ground
because of the balloon tire. This is not a uni to do artistic skills on. If I
were doing a marathon, this would be my uni of choice. It is so smooth and
stable it seems almost impossible to fall off of unless you attempt to ride too
fast. I had tried it at the NUC and was not impressed, but once we got it home
and got the seat height correct, I found it to be a wonderful machine.

The Semcycle 40" is a show machine. It just looks impressive. What you add with
riding skill is gravy. It is light and responsive and you can you do beautiful
artistic skills on it. It spins on a dime inside or out. The ride is rough as
the tire is solid.

Overall, for me, the Sem is more fun. I focus more on artistic riding not
distance or cruising. It depends on what you like to do.
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From: MaxfieldD@aol.com[SMTP:MaxfieldD@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, August
11, 1998 7:15 PM To: William.Gilbertson@UNISYS.com Subject: Re: Big
Wheel Unicycle Questions

    Thanks for the info.

    I have a Coker on order, and I'm considering sending it on to Tom Miller
    (or someone else) to have the wheel strengthened--perhaps put in a
    longer, stronger hub; perhaps add or improve spokes; etc.

    How does the "fun factor" compare between your Sem and the Coker? I
    didn't know that Sem built custom unis.

    David Maxfield Seattle