Anyone else in here using Opera

Just wondering…

I think I’m falling in love with it… :slight_smile:

But anyway… something weird happens when I cut and paste with it. Lets say I
cut some PHP code then paste it into EditPlus… no syntax highlighting and the
code will not work… If I do the same thing with ie OR Netscape everything
works fine.

It also does something weird while sending information via forms… if a do a
mySQL dump of stuff I inputted with opera… I can’t import the code into
another DB…

I’m wondering if it has something to do with the lanuage encoding? Just a
wild guess.


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“John R. Marshall” wrote:
>
> But anyway… something weird happens when I cut and paste with it. Lets say I
> cut some PHP code then paste it into EditPlus… no syntax highlighting and the
> code will not work… If I do the same thing with ie OR Netscape everything
> works fine.

Are you pasting the code into a new, as yet unsaved, EditPlus window? Or into an
already html or php extension-saved window? Whenever you paste something into a
new window that has not yet been saved, EditPlus does not understand that it
should use syntax hilighting.

If you are pasting it into an already saved window, that displays other code
with syntax hilighting, then I have no clue. I think it is really strange
behavior that I personally cannot duplicate… dunno!


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“John R. Marshall” wrote:
>
> Just wondering…
>
> I think I’m falling in love with it… :slight_smile:

Ever since 5.02 came out, it’s been my primary browser :slight_smile: I REALLY love the
interface, I love the features, I love the speed. I HATE the banner ad :wink:

I still use NS for my mail/news client, though.

> But anyway… something weird happens when I cut and paste with it. Lets say I
> cut some PHP code then paste it into EditPlus… no syntax highlighting and the
> code will not work… If I do the same thing with ie OR Netscape everything
> works fine.

It may be cutting the HTML source when you do that. I’ll have to play with it.

> It also does something weird while sending information via forms… if a do a
> mySQL dump of stuff I inputted with opera… I can’t import the code into
> another DB…
>
> I’m wondering if it has something to do with the lanuage encoding? Just a
> wild guess.

Probably something obscure like that.

-Mike K.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“John R. Marshall” <john@jrmstudios.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.153914cf31550fd9989726@news.worldwebserver.com
> Just wondering…
>
> I think I’m falling in love with it… :slight_smile:

I only start it to write error reports in the hope they fix them in the
next release.


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:22:34 -0700 Shena Delian O’Brien said…

> If you are pasting it into an already saved window, that displays other code
> with syntax hilighting, then I have no clue. I think it is really strange
> behavior that I personally cannot duplicate… dunno!

Yep… must be my puter then… I’ll get used to it :wink:


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“Roland Mösl” wrote:
>
> I only start it to write error reports in the hope they fix them in the next
> release.

What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the
same as IE 5.0

-Mike K.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Mike King wrote in message <3AD1260B.382B2E75@webcodefocus.com>…
>
>
>“Roland Mösl” wrote:
>>
>> I only start it to write error reports in the hope they fix them in the next
>> release.
>
>What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the same
>as IE 5.0

Does IE 5.x still “render” improperly coded tables?


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
news:3AD1260B.382B2E75@webcodefocus.com
>
>
> “Roland Mösl” wrote:
> >
> > I only start it to write error reports in the hope they fix them in the next
> > release.
>
> What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the same
> as IE 5.0

The first <DIV misplace error

http://milo-designs.com

The headline appears at the wrong place


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Mike King wrote:
>
> What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the same
> as IE 5.0

You’re kidding, right?

Visit http://www.usbank.com/ in Opera 5 and in IE 5.5. Notice the table
shifting.


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“Roland Mösl” wrote:
>
> “Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
> news:3AD1260B.382B2E75@webcodefocus.com
> >
> >
> > “Roland Mösl” wrote:
> > >
> > > I only start it to write error reports in the hope they fix them in the
> > > next release.
> >
> > What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the
> > same as IE 5.0
>
> The first <DIV misplace error
>
> http://milo-designs.com
>
> The headline appears at the wrong place

Because you use non-standard code.

-Mike K.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
>
> Mike King wrote:
> >
> > What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the
> > same as IE 5.0
>
> You’re kidding, right?

OK, so I was being a little extreme. But in 99% of cases, pages are rendered
properly with Opera. A hell of a lot better than with NS. I just don’t see what
Mosl is complaining about. (probably his non-standard code).

-Mike K.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Mike King wrote:
>
> OK, so I was being a little extreme. But in 99% of cases, pages are rendered
> properly with Opera. A hell of a lot better than with NS. I just don’t see
> what Mosl is complaining about. (probably his non-standard code).

I agree that most of the time Opera does a damn good job. It’s a lot faster too.
There are still a lot of buggy things about the application as a whole, but the
browser is good.

For some reason I can’t get any urls I click in a newsgroup in Opera to actually
go somewhere. :wink: It gives me a page not found error every time.


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

What version are you running?

-Mike K.

Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
>
> Mike King wrote:
> >
> > OK, so I was being a little extreme. But in 99% of cases, pages are rendered
> > properly with Opera. A hell of a lot better than with NS. I just don’t see
> > what Mosl is complaining about. (probably his non-standard code).
>
> I agree that most of the time Opera does a damn good job. It’s a lot faster
> too. There are still a lot of buggy things about the application as a whole,
> but the browser is good.
>
> For some reason I can’t get any urls I click in a newsgroup in Opera to
> actually go somewhere. It gives me a page not found error every time.
>
> –
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>
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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Mike King wrote:
>
> What version are you running?

The latest, 5.02 I believe, as I downloaded it just a couple of days ago.

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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Shena Delian O’Brien wrote:
>
> Mike King wrote:
> >
> > What version are you running?
>
> The latest, 5.02 I believe, as I downloaded it just a couple of days ago.

I’m really having NO problems with 5.02. I love it. Almost enough to pay for it
(to get rid of that damn banner ad).

-Mike K.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

Mike King wrote:
>
> I’m really having NO problems with 5.02. I love it. Almost enough to pay for
> it (to get rid of that damn banner ad).

I have a lot of problems with mail and news. Until those are fixed I wouldn’t
consider buying it, because I won’t really be using it.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 16:40:47 -0400 Mike King said…

> I’m really having NO problems with 5.02. I love it. Almost enough to pay for
> it (to get rid of that damn banner ad).

I bought 4 when it came out… when I installed 5 it worked with out banners :slight_smile:

Other than this weird cut and paste thing The only problems come from site
javascripts that ignore opera (if you switch the UA to IE everything works fine.

It crashes from time to time, but that doesn’t mean a reboot and it will offer
to restore the pages you were at when it crashed

What I really like is how it cashes pages… You can go off line and still read
the last 20 or so pages you visited by using the back button.

BTW I found how to change the default search engines in the search box… but it
requires editing the exe in a hex editor… I tried but I didn’t manage to fill
the replaced parts with blanks (zeros) so it crashed… if I only understood hex
editors :wink:


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Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“John R. Marshall” wrote:
>
> (if you switch the UA to IE everything works fine.)

A really nice feature, in my opinion, but it’s going to hurt how Opera looks in
the market share. No one will start developing for Opera unless they see it in
their logs.

> It crashes from time to time, but that doesn’t mean a reboot and it will offer
> to restore the pages you were at when it crashed

This is the BEST feature, if you ask me. What happens when NS or IE crash? You
lose your session, and the pages you were on are gone. When Opera crashes, you
restart, and it asks you if you want to open all the windows you had open when
you crashed. So a few seconds to re-download the pages, and you’re right where
you were when the crash happened! :smiley:

> What I really like is how it cashes pages… You can go off line and still read
> the last 20 or so pages you visited by using the back button.

Yeah, it’s got really great caching.

> BTW I found how to change the default search engines in the search box… but
> it requires editing the exe in a hex editor… I tried but I didn’t manage to
> fill the replaced parts with blanks (zeros) so it crashed… if I only
> understood hex editors

I still use bookmarklets for searching :wink:

-Mike K.

Re: Anyone else in here using Opera

“Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> “Roland Mösl” wrote:
> >
> > “Mike King” <mike@webcodefocus.com> wrote in message
> > news:3AD1260B.382B2E75@webcodefocus.com
> > >
> > >
> > > “Roland Mösl” wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I only start it to write error reports in the hope they fix them in the
> > > > next release.
> > >
> > > What errors have you found? From my experience, it renders pages 100% the
> > > same as IE 5.0
> >
> > The first <DIV misplace error
> >
> > http://milo-designs.com
> >
> > The headline appears at the wrong place
>
> Because you use non-standard code.

Change all what this shit validator tells to standard code, and You will see the
same error.


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