America's Not-So-Good Inn

My family and I stayed at the America’s Best Inn in Marion, IL last Thanksgiving during our visit to my parents for the holiday. We’ve stayed there the past three or four years for our Thanksgiving visits. This time, though, We had quite the run-around involving overcharging, additional charges, extremely poor customer service, and more. It’s a good soap opera story. Here it goes:

The total rate for the three nights was $113.43. Got the receipt here in front of me. When we entered our room, we discovered that it was a smoking room so I had to go back to the front desk to get a different room. The next room only had one double bed for the four of us, so back to the front desk I went. The third room was sufficient…except for a lack of towels.

In the morning, I went down to the front office to get some towels. The young girl at the desk was very tiny, but TNT comes in a small package too. I couldn’t believe the girl’s extreme attitude and rudeness. Later, when Brad and I went down for the free continental breakfast, we experienced more of her fury. Yikes! Hope she at least likes living with herself.

Here’s the kicker. I just received my credit card statement. We were charged $151.24 (not $113.43) on November 26, then another two charges from Best Inn of $133.43 on December 2 and $151.24 on December 3. We were back in Rochelle on those days. So I called the hotel on Tuesday of this week and left a message for the manager to call me back. When I didn’t get a call, I called again twice on Wednesday, twice on Thursday, and once this morning (Friday). When I still didn’t get a call back, I called my dad and asked him for some help.

Now Dad is a very distinguished man, well educated, former federal government employee, and well-known in the community. He’s travelled the world speaking and teaching. Dad put together a little presentation of what all has occured up to this point. At 1:30 this afternoon, Dad met with Jim Baker at the hotel. Here’s Dad’s email to me about how it went:


I met with Jim Baker, General Manager, at 1:30 this afternoon (your dear friend the petite girl was there during my entire visit.) Here is a summary of my visit:
Our computers are down and I can’t do anything about it until the computers come back up.
I don’t even have his phone number (which he eventually found).
I have to go through several boxes manually until I find the right records. (He finally admitted that he hasn’t even started on that.)
I have other things to do.

Then I reviewed the phone calls you made and the responses you received. In answer to my question as to why he didn’t even return a call, his response to me was, “This is private property and I want you to get off it right now.” This came with his curse. My comment, “Maybe I’ll stay here until this is resolved.” Jim’s response, “If you don’t leave immediately, I’ll call the police and have you evicted.” (Dad is good friends with the Marion Chief of Police :))

During our entire visit, he left the room twice, but came back to share his friendly attitude with me again.

Another bit of advice from Jim - If he wants he can write a letter to his credit card company. Then they will send me a letter to which I will not respond.

My parting comments - I will copy you on the letter I write to the corporate office in Atlanta which will also go to the Marion Chamber of Commerce and the Williamson County Tourism Bureau. Jim’s response - Fine, there’s my card.


I called the corporate headquarters this afternoon and what do you know? A couple hours later, manager Jim is calling to get my records to get the problem fixed.

I’ve also called my credit card company and opened cases on all three charges. As a last action, I cancelled my credit cards and will have them issue new ones.

Interesting day. I’ll repost if and when it all gets resolved.

That stinks. Fortunately, the credit card company should reverse the charges.

This reminds me that I need to order a new credit card too. Apparently, “Alicia Keys” bought some software via online delivery with my wife’s card a couple months ago. Doesn’t Miss Keys make enough of her own money? :wink:

Got another call from the corporate headquarter guy. Evidently he called manager Jim and had a little chat with him. HQ guy told me that manager Jim should be calling to apologize and request that we not stop staying in their hotel. We may be well beyond that at this point.

I emailed Dad at one point today and said that at the original charges, it was over $145 a night and they didn’t even give me a mint on my pillow.

Just goes to show that, no matter how little power one has over another, they can still misuse it. Sorry that’s the case for you, Bruce… I’m glad you can keep a cool head in this situation.

You played all the right cards here… I’m sure you’ll come out on top!

Everyone else: take notes. This is how REAL gangstas roll.

Hope it will all be straightened out with little or no additional wastage of your time. An apology would be nice. Of course I’d be surprised if you ever stay there again, even if it’s for free. Who knows how people with such pleasant customer service skills would “prepare” your room for you? Unless the place is under new management by then, which seems likely.

Jacquie and I travel a lot, and stay in lots of hotels. My advice to you: next time, stay in a place that uses a computer to track registrations! (not that they probably don’t, but claiming all records are in boxes, a few days after your stay, suggests there are no computers in use on the premesis. Which would mean they are not tied into online registration systems such as Hotels.com or Expedia. Fat chance.

Hey Bruce,

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Not to start too much trouble, but maybe you want to post the number for the company headquarters and everyone here who reads this can give them a call just so they will realize the possible extent of this guys actions. Should give them a eye-opener.

Art

Sounds like a fun idea, but maybe as a last resort. I think we’re working this along at a good rate and making small directional jabs here and there without causing anyone to give up and throw up sudden defenses. As much as I’d like to really get this guy for being a class A jerk, my primary goal is to get him to work for me to get the money back.

However, Dad did write his letter which I think is a good thing. It will serve to keep manager Jim on task as well as possibly protect future guests at the hotel from experiencing what we’ve gone through. Here’s Dad’s letter:


						         January 11, 2008

Chairman of the Board
America’s Best Inns and Suites
50 Glenlake Parkway NE
Suite 350
Atlanta, GA 30328

Dear Mr. Chairman:

Our son, Bruce Edwards, and his family stayed at the America’s Best Inn in Marion, Illinois, Jim L. Baker General Manger, for three nights over the Thanksgiving weekend. The actual dates were November 22-24, 2007. The phone reservation was made on or about November 22. The agreed upon price was $113.43 for the three nights. This can be verified on the attached copy of the receipt from the inn.

The bill was paid with his Master Card. When he received the statement from his Master Card holder, he noticed three charges from the inn – 11/26, $151.24, 12/2, $133.43 and 12/3, $151.24. This made a total of $435.91 with an overcharge of $322.48. An interesting point, they weren’t even guests at the inn on December 2 and 3.

After noticing the error on the Master Card statement, my son called the inn with absolutely no cooperation from Mr. Baker. Here is a summary of the calls:

  1. Called Tuesday evening, January 8. Was told that Mr. Baker would be in at 9:00 AM tomorrow morning. Left a message for the manager to call back. No return call.
  2. Called Wednesday afternoon, January 9 and talked with Mr. Baker. He was surprised at the situation and said he’d pull the information and look at it. He would call back in an hour. No return call.
  3. Called Thursday morning, January 10, and left a message at the front desk. No return call.
  4. Called Thursday afternoon, January 10, and left a message at the front desk. No return call.
  5. Called Friday morning, January 11. Was told that Mr. Baker was across the street and would return in 10 minutes. No return call.

I met with Mr. Baker this afternoon, January 11, to see if the problem could be rectified. I was met with rudeness and absolutely no desire on his part to even try. He said that he couldn’t do anything because the computer was down and he would have to look through boxes of forms to find the correct paperwork. Later in our conversation he admitted he had other things to do and had not even gathered the boxes together to begin an investigation.

I can understand the computer problem, but I have trouble justifying the attitude of not returning calls and the attitude Mr. Baker displayed to me.

I trust that this problem will be resolved in short order. Thanks for your consideration of this matter.

							 Sincerely,

Copy: Jim L. Baker, America’s Best Inns, Marion with attachments
Bruce Edwards, w/o attachments
Marion Chamber of Commerce with attachments
Williamson County Tourism Bureau with attachments

Wow. This really brought back bad memories.

Last summer, I stayed at another location of this same hotel chain. I will just say it was in a small town in central Missouri. From the outside it looked okay but from the inside it was one of the creepiest hotels I have ever stayed in. I did not have any credit card problems other than the fact that the hotel clerk (owner?) charged my credit card for all three nights (per my reservation) when I got there. After 2 nights, I packed my bags and left. I did not feel safe. The hotel clerk (owner?) had to issue a credit to my credit card for the unused night. I don’t think hotels are supposed to charge that way but in Missouri they seem to do it and get away with it.

This was a small hotel. I think the man at the desk was the live-in owner/operator. He had so few customers (despite being next to a very busy inter-state highway) that I wondered if he was the housekeeper too but he did have someone else cleaning rooms. He never smiled. He was polite but I kept expecting to see Anthony Perkins emerge from the back office.

When I got home, I sent an email to the corporate headquarters but did not get a reply. I will never stay at America’s Best Inn again … anywhere.

Also, when I checked in, I noticed that my reservation information was writen on a yellow Post-it note.

Correction to my post above: I forgot about the “computer being down.” Of course they have computers. Or I guess a computer, otherwise there would be at least one not down…

In defense of some chains:
I don’t know how this chain operates, but some hotel chains are franchises; run by the individual owners. The leads to wide inconsistencies in quality so a great experience at one hotel in the chain might lead to a lousy experience in a different one.

But if all the hotels bear the same name, management needs to be aware that the bad apples are going to stop people going to the better properties as well…

This is a franchise to the point that the corporate guy I talked to, the Director of Franchise Operations, initially wanted nothing to do with the dispute. He kept putting me off and trying to reroute me to either the credit card company, which I already had under control, or the hotel general manager, and that would be unresponsive Jim. Evidently, Mr. Director had a slow day because he advocated for me a little bit by calling Jim to help get things rolling.

As for the computers, not sure what was going on there, but evidently the computers were consistently down because they didn’t run my first charge through until November 26.

Latest email from Dad. I also should be receiving a letter from the credit card company soom with forms to fill out about the three disputed charges.


I received a phone call from John Musgrave of the "Williamson County Tourism Bureau this morning. He thanked me for copying him on the letter to the America’s Best Inns Chairman of the Board. Here’s a list of his comments:
I’ll keep it in the file.

  1. You are not the first person to complain about this inn or the General Manager.
  2. You can go on-line and find complaints from many guests who have stayed there.
  3. Their motel business is getting smaller and they are planning to shut down the entire back unit soon.

I have not heard from the the hotel’s general manager Jim Baker.

Love, Dad

Wow That sounds like quite the ordeal. It also seems like something that could be dealt with pretty easily but they just keep on giving you more and more problems.

It would also seem that Mastercard is giving you a bit of a pain, I remember when I was supposed to be traveling to Calgary on Canjet on the day that they shut down, and therefore had no flight even though I payed, Visa was very easy to deal with and we quickly got our money refunded.

Visa seems to have a policy where, if you don’t get what you payed for, then you get your money back directly from visa, then they deal with the people. I may be wrong on this, it may actualy require more work usualy but thats what we seemed to find. When we had to get our money back, all we did was call them and it was quick and painless, but this may be due to the fact that Canjet going under was extremely publicized.

I’m really not expecting any problems from Mastercard. I just have to fill out a couple forms for their documentation. Should be okay.

This is the SOP for major credit card companies… they’ve got a lot more leverage than Joe Blow, so it’s to their advantage to keep Joe happy by giving his money back to him, then sending their dogs after the offending party.

American Express goes one step further and offers purchase protection on most items… if it’s damaged, vandalized or stolen they’ll cover the full replacement cost. They have similar plans for travel where they’ll insure you against changes and cancellations… they’ll often make alternate travel arrangements for you to keep you from being stranded or without luggage.

What they’ve done for me in the past (two incidents similar to this) is put the equivalent of a “hold” on the bill for the disputed amounts. That is, the bills they send still have those charges on them, but no interest accrues and you aren’t expected to pay them until they’ve been resolved. They’ve always been resolved in my favor, so far. Knock wood!

Good luck, Bruce!

Looks like my friendly neighborhood America’s Not-So-Good Inn manager tried to reconcile the problem. He credited my credit card account $302.48. Only problem is that my calculations show that the credit should be $322.48. I’ve received no communication from the Inn manager whatsoever.

Mastercard had opened three dispute cases for me in which they credit my account the money until their investigation finds an answer. They are cancelling the disputes on Dec 2 & 3 since the manager issued me a credit but we’re going to keep the Nov 26 dispute open for $20.

And on we go…

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I know from past experience that the credit card company will likely give the inn manager a hard time over this. There will be some fairly substantial “charge back” fees that the hotel will have to pay.

Hang in there and make sure the hotel fixes things right.

Oh, I’ll hang. I’m in no rush. This guy has sort of brought out some rare ire in me. I hope he has to pay back plenty of charge back fees. I’m glad to hear about your experience with credit card companies’ actions.