Altavista all but dead?

Does anyone out there actually get any traffic from Altavista any more?
One of my sites is on the first page in the second spot for “mortgage
rates” (a very popular search phrase) and I’m lucky to get even one or
two visitors a day from it. I’m starting to wonder if they’ll be around
much longer…


Jay Tierney – jay@jaytierney.com

Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Jay Tierney” <jay@jaytierney.com> wrote in message
news:3D514A31.65CC6EE5@jaytierney.com
> Does anyone out there actually get any traffic from Altavista any more?
> One of my sites is on the first page in the second spot for “mortgage
> rates” (a very popular search phrase) and I’m lucky to get even one or
> two visitors a day from it. I’m starting to wonder if they’ll be around
> much longer…

August stats from pege.org

Host Counts:
1193 google.com
972 google.de
279 search.msn.com
261 google.yahoo.com
133 abacho.de
107 google.ca
83 google.at
78 altavista.com
68 auto.search.msn.com
64 aolsearch.aol.com
63 search.msn.de
54 google.ch
53 suche.lycos.de

Total 4879

They have 1.6% now

http://www.beingfound.com/statistic-2002/07.htm


Roland Mösl
http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://web-design-suite.com Web Design starts at the search engine

Re: Altavista all but dead?

Below is the way my “main” website stacks up. It does look like Altavista is
on their way out.

Yahoo 70.75%
MSN Search 12.07%
Google 10.16%
Askjeeves 3.99%
Altavista 2.34%
Mamma 0.28%
Goto.com 0.16%
Looksmart 0.09%
Excite 0.08%
Lycos 0.04%


Tom B.

“Jay Tierney” <jay@jaytierney.com> wrote in message
news:3D514A31.65CC6EE5@jaytierney.com
> Does anyone out there actually get any traffic from Altavista any more?
> One of my sites is on the first page in the second spot for “mortgage
> rates” (a very popular search phrase) and I’m lucky to get even one or
> two visitors a day from it. I’m starting to wonder if they’ll be around
> much longer…
>
> –
> Jay Tierney – jay@jaytierney.com

Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Tom B.” <dbryant1@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
news:airuib$9ei$1@www.darklock.com
> Below is the way my “main” website stacks up. It does look like Altavista
is
> on their way out.
>
> Yahoo 70.75%
> MSN Search 12.07%
> Google 10.16%
> Askjeeves 3.99%
> Altavista 2.34%
> Mamma 0.28%
> Goto.com 0.16%
> Looksmart 0.09%
> Excite 0.08%
> Lycos 0.04%

You have severe proplems with search engines in general
and with Google special


Roland Mösl
http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://web-design-suite.com Web Design starts at the search engine

Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Roland Mösl” <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
news:ais20k$d2s$1@www.darklock.com
> “Tom B.” <dbryant1@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:airuib$9ei$1@www.darklock.com
> > Below is the way my “main” website stacks up. It does look like
Altavista
> is
> > on their way out.
> >
> > Yahoo 70.75%
> > MSN Search 12.07%
> > Google 10.16%
> > Askjeeves 3.99%
> > Altavista 2.34%
> > Mamma 0.28%
> > Goto.com 0.16%
> > Looksmart 0.09%
> > Excite 0.08%
> > Lycos 0.04%
>
> You have severe proplems with search engines in general
> and with Google special

Actually, I’ve seen his listings and he’s doing pretty damn good :slight_smile:


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Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Rodney Blackwell” <rodney@webdiscuss.com> wrote in message
news:ais22n$d4s$1@www.darklock.com
> “Roland Mösl” <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
> news:ais20k$d2s$1@www.darklock.com
> > “Tom B.” <dbryant1@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:airuib$9ei$1@www.darklock.com…[color=darkred]
> > > Below is the way my “main” website stacks up. It does look like
> Altavista
> > is
> > > on their way out.
> > >
> > > Yahoo 70.75%
> > > MSN Search 12.07%
> > > Google 10.16%
> > > Askjeeves 3.99%
> > > Altavista 2.34%
> > > Mamma 0.28%
> > > Goto.com 0.16%
> > > Looksmart 0.09%
> > > Excite 0.08%
> > > Lycos 0.04%
> >
> > You have severe proplems with search engines in general
> > and with Google special
>
> Actually, I’ve seen his listings and he’s doing pretty damn good :-)[/color]

But what site? I can not imagine that Yahoo sends more than Google


Roland Mösl
http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://web-design-suite.com Web Design starts at the search engine

Re: Altavista all but dead?

TOOYA! How can you tell that based on percentages alone? Some of my
sites get over 90% of their traffic from Yahoo (ooooooo! unbalanced) and
I’m doing just fine.

Roland M=F6sl wrote:
> =

> > Yahoo 70.75%
> > MSN Search 12.07%
> > Google 10.16%
> > Askjeeves 3.99%
> > Altavista 2.34%
> > Mamma 0.28%
> > Goto.com 0.16%
> > Looksmart 0.09%
> > Excite 0.08%
> > Lycos 0.04%
> =

> You have severe proplems with search engines in general
> and with Google special
> =

> –
> Roland M=F6sl
> http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
> http://web-design-suite.com Web Design starts at the search engine

– =

Jay Tierney – jay@jaytierney.com

Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Roland Mösl” <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
news:ais2pb$ds1$1@www.darklock.com
>
> But what site? I can not imagine that Yahoo sends more than Google

Wow…you are still learning then :slight_smile: Yahoo still has a MUCH higher reach of
users than google. If you know what you’re doing and optimize your Yahoo
listing correctly (and are working on a high traffic key word) Yahoo can
surpass google anyday.

I have about the SAME exact position in google and Yahoo for a particular
keyword and the direct traffic from Yahoo surpasses the google traffic by
about 50%.

I think in Tom’s case though he wasn’t quoting raw log files so the Yahoo!
percentage may include visitors from google.yahoo.com.


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Re: Altavista all but dead?

I second this. Not only can Yahoo out-produce Google in visitors (in my
experience anyway), but the quality also seems to be better.

Rodney Blackwell wrote:
>
> Wow…you are still learning then :slight_smile: Yahoo still has a MUCH higher reach of
> users than google. If you know what you’re doing and optimize your Yahoo
> listing correctly (and are working on a high traffic key word) Yahoo can
> surpass google anyday.
>
> I have about the SAME exact position in google and Yahoo for a particular
> keyword and the direct traffic from Yahoo surpasses the google traffic by
> about 50%.
>
> I think in Tom’s case though he wasn’t quoting raw log files so the Yahoo!
> percentage may include visitors from google.yahoo.com.
>
> –
> Rodney Blackwell - site owner/administrator
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> http://T-ShirtCountdown.com http://TalkT-Shirts.com/
> http://ihateclowns.com/ http://Globie.com/
> http://DomainJunkies.com/ http://5R5.NET
> http://GotPaintball.com/ http://CircleRPrinting.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------


Jay Tierney – jay@jaytierney.com

Re: Altavista all but dead?

> Wow…you are still learning then :slight_smile: Yahoo still has a MUCH higher reach
of
> users than google. If you know what you’re doing and optimize your Yahoo
> listing correctly (and are working on a high traffic key word) Yahoo can
> surpass google anyday.

True.

> I think in Tom’s case though he wasn’t quoting raw log files so the Yahoo!
> percentage may include visitors from google.yahoo.com.

I do believe you are right. :slight_smile:


Tom B.

Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Jay Tierney” <jay@jaytierney.com> wrote in message
news:3D519252.E3383B33@jaytierney.com
> I second this. Not only can Yahoo out-produce Google in visitors (in my
> experience anyway), but the quality also seems to be better.

Also true. A LOT of buyers (or consumers in general) seem to start at
Yahoo.


Rodney Blackwell - site owner/administrator

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Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Roland Mösl” <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
news:ais20k$d2s$1@www.darklock.com
> You have severe proplems with search engines in general
> and with Google special

How so, Master Roland?


Tom B.

Re: Altavista all but dead?

> Actually, I’ve seen his listings and he’s doing pretty damn good :slight_smile:

Thanks. :slight_smile: I also get a lot of hits from Yahoo! due to advertising with
overture.


Tom B.

Re: Altavista all but dead?

“Tom B.” <dbryant1@sport.rr.com> wrote in message
news:aisov2$5kh$1@www.darklock.com
> “Roland Mösl” <founder@pege.org> wrote in message
> news:ais20k$d2s$1@www.darklock.com
> > You have severe proplems with search engines in general
> > and with Google special
>
> How so, Master Roland?

My experiences. At only one very small domain from me
has Yahoo a major roll

4162 search.msn.com
3910 search.yahoo.com
2557 208.46.165.216
1934 www.google.com
1906 www.altavista.com
835 www.google.de
783 www.pege.org
779 ink.yahoo.com
718 search.excite.com
659 auto.search.msn.com
631 google.yahoo.com

from 33079 since 1998. The domain has only
10 German and 10 English pages and is so
to weak to make real performance at Google.

So I thought…

But I just decided to make a big DMOZ.ORG campaign.

Not that www.dmoz.org sends much visitors,
not that directory.google.com sends much visitors,
but the links from them have a great effect on the page rank.

And this makes Google to send much visitors.


Roland Mösl
http://www.pege.org Clear targets for a confused civilization
http://web-design-suite.com Web Design starts at the search engine