“The Pirate Bay”, one of my favorite torrent sites, is down because of the man. It’s a sad story when a utopia of sharing and appreciaton is abolished like this.
that stuff is illegal, duhhhh, you shouldn’t be doing it anyways!
This is horrible. How am I going to download the new Ubuntu tomorrow?
I had Ubuntu send me 15 CDs or something. Much better than the long download, and easier to spread the linux love.
I use isohunt.com
I support artists and creative people by paying for their work.
I support them by listening to their music…if they’re real artists, the money shouldn’t matter to them. Not only that, but pirating is not doing any harm to the economy whatsoever. And most musical artists don’t mind.
Check out this little ditty.
You’re delirious and really really stretching the bounds of logic and common sense to make your point. Artists do want to make money – even the real ones. You can’t live in debt your entire life. The money matters.
There are major problems with the music industry and how they sell the works. CDs are too expensive. $14+ for a CD is too much. It’s too much for an impulse purchase and too much for teens who get hooked on music to afford.
Another problem is how difficult and inconvenient it is to sample an album legally. In many cases you have to buy an album on faith without having listened to it. At best you can listen to short clips of some songs on an album at a record store, but those clips often don’t give you an accurate summary of the song. Why is it so difficult and inconvenient to sample an album legally before buying it? The music industry is unfirendly to the consumer. They make it hard to explore music that you are not familiar with and risky to buy it. I know I’m unwilling to just go to a record store and buy an album that I’m not familiar with. No impulse purchases for me. If I see something interesting in a record store the money stays in my pocket because I’m not willing to risk the $15 on an album I may not like.
It also disturbs me about how little the artists make from each CD sale. It doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy supporting the artists feeling to buy a CD because so little (if any) of the money from that CD gets back to the artist.
If you don’t like what the RIAA is doing then don’t listen to artists and labels from the RIAA. Explore indy labels. Make the indy labels prosper and the RIAA labels suffer. Hit them in the pocketbook where you’ll make them hurt. Hit them in public popularity by not listening to their music. Don’t just not buy from them, don’t listen to them either. Don’t download them. That may start to affect change. It is hard to completely cut off and ignore RIAA labels and bands. But that’s what’s going to have to be done to make the point.
WinMX got shut down a while ago, but cause of the fan base it had, and lowal users, we have been able to get past the RIAA, and are still able to use it, but we have different caches to use, and a patch, but its worth the extra 1min to download an extra file that helps.
The man can never really get you down, he just kinda steps on you a little, but thats when you eat spinach and lift his foot off ya popeye style!
Sorry James, I respect the majority of your posts and views, but that’s about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard.
I’ll elucidate tomorrow if necessary, but I’m hoping you’ll take a few minutes and think it through yourself.
Respectfully,
TB
Don’t artist make enough money from concerts?
If the artist wants me to buy their album, they are gonna need to have a cd with good songs, not just one good song, and the rest being ok. If the artist has a cd with all great songs, ill buy the cd, if its just a cd with about 1 or 3 good songs, ill download those songs, and leave out the cruddy ones.
I am with james here, real artist, they wont mind if I download their songs, a lot of them, they encourage you to download their songs and share them, bands that are getting all mad about it, it makes you wonder, is that band in it for the music, for the fans? Or are they in it to make the most profit?
Ill continue to download all the songs I want, I only have 1.5k songs downloaded, and Ill continue buying the cds that are worth my money, If i really want to support an artist, I’ll go to their concerts.
Actually The Pirate Bay doesn’t do anything illegal according to Swedish Law.
The torrent trackers themselves holds no copyrighted material. I think the police are making a fool out of themselves in ths case.
I realize that it sounds stupid, but just think about it. The part about “most musicians don’t care” is key. There are only certain artists which you can download from the internet, such as Weezer, Fallout Boy, Red Hot Chili Peppers, etc. And that is because they’re very famous. Because they’re very famous, they make millions of dollars. As far as I know, millions of dollars is quite sufficient to live off of. The artists who really need the money, like local ones, I support by paying for their music, because I know they need it. I’ve bought few CD’s in the past few days, including Lisa Simpson and Oracle Shack, both of whom are Moscow bands.
I feel obliged to pay for music if I know they need it. But musical artists are entertainers and artists. They should do what they do because they enjoy it. Not completely to make a living.
i wouldn’t download music if they didn’t change ridiculous amounts of money for the Cd’s.
I know everyone need to be payed who made the Cd’s, but if they reduced the price, more people would buy them and they would get the same amount of money
well thats what i think, some of you might disagree with me but that will always happen.
After forty years of LEARNING my craft,(guitar) I think I would not be alone in demanding either death and/or execution of any individual who pirated what I had worked so diligently to create.
The same is true of my present fiction manuscript. While that ‘only’ took three years, I’d be rather livid if I was to find it out in the marketplace without helping to pay my expenses.
As long as you aren’t the one ripping the cd onto the net originally it is not illigal in Canada!
This sucks but I’m sure they will sort things out. Basically for the time that they aren’t running they are generating a crapload of publicity.
Did you check out that link that I posted in one of my earlier posts? Like it says, people don’t download music just to be illegal. We do it because we like music, and you can’t blame that. However, as far as I know, you’re not internationally famous and you’re not making millions of dollars from your music, so I would gladly help support you and your art.
I use www.torrentz.com for a find-all torrent search engine, which works equally as well.
amount of work != quality of work