Hehehehehe, I think you’re misapplying what I’ve said about cokering vs. road biking to apply to mountain. Hardcore muni is WAY harder than mountain biking. Fact is, though, which is what I said, for a consistent, significant, road workout on flat ground or with a flat average, the road bike takes the cake for workout potential. On roller-hills in the mountains, the mountain bike can be (and, depending on the rider and intensity, usually is) way easier than a muni. Oh, heall naw, I didn’t say Muni was easier than mtb.
Try a 100-200 mile road bike ride some time, at a good, strong pace… with some climbs in there… on a road bike whose smallest gear is a 39/23 * 700c, which is like a 45" wheel. Once you do, you’ll see why even a 50 mile bike workout can wipe you out if you do it right. In response to your claim that gears help me climb hills on 90-mile road rides, how is climbing on a 45" gear easier than climbing on a 36, even when in fact the hills usually get tackled in 60+ inch gears? (I grant that the balancing factor on the 36 makes it more difficult, but not up to the point of it being 45"- and definitely not 60"- difficult)
I (and Joe too) kill your argument for the superiority of the coker for road training, and you fall back and say that Muni is harder than mountain biking, quoting the only part of my post that doesn’t mention roads, implicitly claiming you were right all along. Hehehehehehe. This forum game is fun. If I piss you off, let me know, because in my mind I’m arguing trying to hold back laughing with a big grin on my face. I really don’t want to make anyone angry.
I think that if you try some consistent, high-cadence, long (at least 20 minutes at a time), uninterrupted, aerobic-threshold-max, large-geared (not easily geared :)) hill climbs on a bike (or, if you have the right hill, coker) and do them regularly, you’ll notice a big improvement in your ability to put out power. Muni will allow you to take punishment and force yourself to keep pushing through pain. Cokering with resistance and cycling doing intervals and distance in optimal gears will allow you to get a hell of a lot more raw output out of yourself before a given amount of pain will even occur.
As a note, please don’t let my remarks make you think that I believe I’m better than you. I really don’t. Your abilities to drops and to jump are well beyond mine, as is your age. I’m “THIRTY YEARS younger!” (!!!1!!1!!1one!!1) than you, and, in all honesty, I hope to be in the kind of shape you are when I’m 50. I think that your ability to output power could be vastly improved (and quickly!) with some consistent hill climbing (on a bike or coker) and speed-cruising (23+mph if you’re doing well) for long distances on a bike with consistent, fast cadence. I also think that muni is irreplaceable as training for muni, because there’s nothing else quite like it, and the degree to which it tears up your body if you’re not prepared is nothing a road bike can tackle. That said, since when did more wattage-bang for your effort-buck become a problem? I think consistent, optimized, power training can increase that fundamental number, watts per effort percentage, faster than muni can, of course, ASSUMING you’re already in shape to muni your ass off and survive to do it again the next day.
Enjoy your night!