# 2019 Mt. Diablo Challenge
**URL:** https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465
**Category:** General
**Created:** [October 15, 2019, 8:03pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465 "2019-10-15T20:03:18Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@tholub](https://unicyclist.com/u/tholub)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/21 "2019-11-01T00:15:05Z")
> [@unicycleharry](#):
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> Obviously, if the correction happens by pushing backwards more, versus just letting up a bit, then it could be be wasting a lot more. With 10% variation, that could be as much as, 10% to pedal harder, then 10% pushing backward, resulting in 20% extra effort. However, I rode [Diablo with a powermeter pedals](https://unicyclist.com/t/uphill-unicycling-vs-bike/126239/1) before on both unicycle and bike, and my [torque effectiveness](https://www.cyclinganalytics.com/blog/2014/04/torque-effectiveness-and-pedal-smoothness) was in a similar range as when I bike. So I think my assumption that balancing comes from pedal forward more or less could be true.
You’re leaving out the inefficiency of the wobble. Unicycles don’t travel in a straight line; they wobble around their axis with every pedal stroke. (This is also true of bicycles but to a much lesser degree). That wobble increases both the effective distance traveled, and the translation of power input into forward momentum.
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### Author:  [@BruceC](https://unicyclist.com/u/BruceC)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/22 "2019-11-01T02:00:53Z")
> [@GizmoDuck](#):
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> Be careful with mechanistic reasoning. The human body is complex and this type of reasoning is the lowest level of evidence that we ascribe a level to.
The only mechanical “reasoning” was related to machines, not human bodies. The reasoning provided is not evidence so please do not judge it’s quality. It’s just an opinion based on personal experience and observation, like everyone else.
> [@GizmoDuck](#):
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> Unicycles are lighter than bikes.
Spend enough and bikes are lighter than a uni. My 29" comes in at 8.5 kg, that’s heavier than many bikes. A few Kg here and there is not part of these discussions, it just too many pies.
> [@GizmoDuck](#):
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> Track bikes are also fixed gear, it is not an impediment if the terrain is constant.
Not an advantage either.
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### Author:  [@unicycleharry](https://unicyclist.com/u/unicycleharry)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 7:23am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/23 "2019-11-01T07:23:36Z")
> [@tholub](#):
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> You’re leaving out the inefficiency of the wobble. Unicycles don’t travel in a straight line; they wobble around their axis with every pedal stroke. (This is also true of bicycles but to a much lesser degree). That wobble increases both the effective distance traveled, and the translation of power input into forward momentum.
Yes, that is true. Handlebars help with this, but is definitely a disadvantage. However, wouldn’t a squiggly line just mean a unicyclists rides at a slightly lower effective gradient? This would increase rolling distance and rolling resistance per straight distance covered, but at about 10W of rolling resistance for good tires, 5% increase of rolling distance and thus rolling resistance losses is quite small. 0.5W?
The resistance per squiggly traveled distance should be very similar to resistance per straight distance. The rolling resistanve coefficient may be a few percent more as the tire takes more sideways loads, but even so, I think it’s tiny.
Lightly squiggly movement could change aerodynamics too, but we are currently quite slow on unicycles it really shouldn’t matter either.
Don’t know how squiggly riding’s effect can be quantified, but maybe it’s possible?
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### Author:  [@unicycleharry](https://unicyclist.com/u/unicycleharry)
#### Post date: [November 1, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/24 "2019-11-01T08:35:26Z")
Forgot to mention momentum. I don’t think it’s an issue, like I said it’s like going up a lightly lower gradient. The squiggly path will have a bit more rolling resistance, but I don’t think it’s much. For example, a bicycle making a turn on a smooth surface doesn’t loose much more speed than if it were to coast going straight. If the squiggliness is just a few degrees at maximum, I don’t think there’s much loss. Cornering rolling resistance on thin bicycle/unicycle tires.. maybe there’s a study out there somewhere..
For weight, I think there is a difference.
My unicycle weighs 10.5lb (5kg). Compared to the handicapped bike with gears that aren’t necessary for our perfect-gradient- course, the unicycle was easy to build and probably lighter than every bike that was at Mt. Diablo Challenge. A 5kg bicycle would require a lot of fancy expensive carbon parts. Yes, even 3kg bike is out there… But my unicycle also has a lot of “easy” weight it could lose if there was a market for stupid light unicycles. Aluminum frame, aluminum saddle, solid steel hub, aluminum cranks, disc brakes; technically it is not hard to make these parts on the unicycle lighter, there’s just no weight weenie unicycle market.
My bike that costs about the same as my unicycle weighs twice as much. 5kg is a lot. Even 1kg is a lot, at my weight of 60kg, 1kg is more than a 1% change.
At least, that’s my reasoning for why my bike times don’t blow my unicycle times out of the water… I think gradient varying from 3-7%, on climbs like Mt. Diablo, account for a big portion of the 15% slower unicycle times Tom noted. That’s 5%+/- 2%, a 40% variation. That’s about 3 or 4 gear changes on a road bike, which every unicycle currently lacks.
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### Author:  [@GizmoDuck](https://unicyclist.com/u/GizmoDuck)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/25 "2019-11-02T05:42:36Z")
> [@tholub](#):
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> You’re leaving out the inefficiency of the wobble. Unicycles don’t travel in a straight line; they wobble around their axis with every pedal stroke.
That depends on the rider.
> [@BruceC](#):
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> The only mechanical “reasoning” was related to machines, not human bodies. The reasoning provided is not evidence so please do not judge it’s quality. It’s just an opinion based on personal experience and observation, like everyone else.
I was also offering mine, based on personal experience, and commenting on Harrisons bicycle vs unicycle time.
> [@BruceC](#):
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> Spend enough and bikes are lighter than a uni. My 29" comes in at 8.5 kg, that’s heavier than many bikes. A few Kg here and there is not part of these discussions, it just too many pies.
My racing 29 sits around 4kg, without any customised parts. The UCI has a min 6.8kg weight limit for race bikes.
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### Author:  [@GizmoDuck](https://unicyclist.com/u/GizmoDuck)
#### Post date: [November 2, 2019, 6:21am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/26 "2019-11-02T06:21:41Z")
> [@unicycleharry](#):
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> I think it can be close between a bike and unicycle.
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> Bike: At least around 2% drivetrain loss? (exclude tires, assume equal for unicycle and bike).
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> Here’s an idea to calculate effort required to balance a unicycle:
> Going uphill for me, I don’t believe I push backwards more than normal(biking) to balance, it’s just pushing forward more or less.
> Thus, my model for balancing is pushing 0-10% more on some pedal strokes, and 0-10% less on other pedal strokes. This makes it approximately up to 1.5% more difficult. (explanation in next paragraph)
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> For example, instead of riding at 200W smoothly (ie on a bike), you ride at 220W for a few pedal strokes, and 180W for the next few pedal strokes. This is harder than just riding at 200W continuously. Bicyclists sometimes use “normalized power” to describe this. If you average 200W, and never go above 220W or below 180W, [normalized power](https://www.trainingpeaks.com/blog/what-is-normalized-power/) maxes out at around 203W. So it is 1.5% more difficult. This is worst case though.. if it’s just 220W for a few seconds, followed by 180W for a few seconds, repeatedly, it’s more like 201W normalized power (0.5% more difficult). Normalized power obviously isn’t perfect, it’s just some equations people thought up of, but it works well enough for bicyclists to gauge their effort.
I can see how it’s calculated, but I can’t find references as to how this ‘normalisation’ is calibrated physiologically. It is also aimed at large variations in power output (ie going up/down hills), rather than the minute corrections we make for balance.
Your example of 180-220W is a 20% variation in power output, which seems excessive. The natural variation of pressure within the pedaling circle would be many orders of magnitude more than the amount of pressure adjustment needed for balance, and both are averaged out by the power meter.
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### Author:  [@unicycleharry](https://unicyclist.com/u/unicycleharry)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2019, 5:05pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/27 "2019-11-03T17:05:22Z")
> [@GizmoDuck](#):
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> I can see how it’s calculated, but I can’t find references as to how this ‘normalisation’ is calibrated physiologically. It is also aimed at large variations in power output (ie going up/down hills), rather than the minute corrections we make for balance.
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> Your example of 180-220W is a 20% variation in power output, which seems excessive. The natural variation of pressure within the pedaling circle would be many orders of magnitude more than the amount of pressure adjustment needed for balance, and both are averaged out by the power meter.
I also couldn’t figure out how the equation for normalized power was created and how accurate it is. Based on it’s formula, shorter term variations (\<\<30seconds) basically disappear, since it uses a 30s rolling average. My +/-20% example calculation alternates 220W for \>30seconds, 180W for \>30seconds. This is a worst case scenario, giving 1.5% efficiency loss. Thus, if balancing is \<20% force variation for \<\<30seconds, the efficiency loss will most likely by \<1.5%.
I don’t know how this can be calibrated easily.. But I think it at least shows that unicycling losses (balance + squiggle) compared to a bike, if at the right gradient/gearing, are likely not 10%, but more on the order of 1%, or less.
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### Author:  [@unicycleharry](https://unicyclist.com/u/unicycleharry)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/28 "2021-10-16T02:05:15Z")
We had a unicyclist showing at Mt. Diablo Challange again this year!
Harrison 1:05:11.1
Josh 1:33:23.1
Jayden 2:11:08.1
Anthony 2:38:54.0
Funnily, we were all on different unicycle sizes. I had a geared 700c with 150mm cranks. I’m happy to have PR’d again, and this time set a new unicycle record.
Josh was on a geared 24" with 165mm cranks. Jayden had a track uni (24"?). Jayden also PR’d; the smaller lighter wheel suited him better than the 29er he used last time! Anthony rode a 36"; and said afterwards he wished he had a smaller wheel for the uphill portion.
This year, I had a power meter on my unicycle, so have some more data to analyze. 😃
Adding to Ben’s comparison from 2019’s race, again, the non-guni I rode in 2019 is still faster in the first two steep sections (red), where I also downshifted like Ben did.
I somehow PR’d the final steep section at the end though (green); again, I downshifted like Ben did.
I tried quite a bit to not ride too hard when I was in high gear and it was steep; trying to pace myself. However, as shown in this plot, my power was still higher in high gear when it got steep, compared to low gear.
Here, we see my cadence was stuck around 105rpm in low gear most of the time. I found it hard to pedal faster with 150mm cranks. In high gear, I’d reduce my cadence gradually when it got steeper, again showing that I was trying to pace myself.
However, my preferred cadence is really around 90-100rpm, and most of the time it felt like I was grinding when in high gear.
Great thing with this data in CSV form, I could easily calculate my effective gear ratio, and see where I shifted.
My relative effort felt pretty similar between 2019 and 2021
2019: average HR 184, max HR 200
2021: average HR 182, max HR 195
My average power this year was 223 W, normalized power of 236 W. My estimated 1 hr best power on a bike is 251 W. 236/251 = 94%, so I was getting pretty close to my physical limits for sure. (edit: did an indoor test 2 weeks afterwards today, and surprisingly got exactly 236 W as my estimated 1 hr power 🤔)
I did find myself surging quite a bit to balance. I could use some more unicycle skills and more geared riding time 🤣. I have about 200 miles on the schlumpf with 150mm cranks, and another 200 miles with 125mm cranks. Given that, I’m pretty happy to have shifted without falling 😇
I’d be interested what other fast riders could do on a 36" or geared 29/700c. Sub 1 hr is totally doable (just not me)! What I don’t know is doable or not is getting on the podium against bikes. This year, no awards/separate category for unicyclists. We did go up afterwards, and they gave us free tumblers and let us get photos on the podium 😄
Personally, I think a non geared 36" might have been better for me this year (Me trying to rationalize N+1) . Overgeared in high gear most of the time (except for 1km of flat in the middle). Undergeared in low gear (except for the last 200 meters).
I read there’s a 15km long, 900m+ climb at UNICON 20, which sounds similar to Mt. Diablo. If the numbers are accurate, it’s a bit steeper than Diablo at 6%+ (Diablo is 5.6%); maybe the 29" class will be faster than the unlimited class 😆
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### Author:  [@toutestbon](https://unicyclist.com/u/toutestbon)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2021, 8:30am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/29 "2021-10-16T08:30:25Z")
Congratulations on your performance!
I’m interested to hear more about how you mined the data. Is it from the .fit file on strava or do you use external software to export your .csv file?
I’ve already looked into power sensors but it’s still very expensive. Pedals with power sensors seem to cost 500 to 1000€. Which model did you get?
For the UNICON, the exact track is unknown (it seems to be a steeper and more regular climb than Mt. Diablo), but I think it’s going to be an incredible race. Indeed, there shouldn’t be much difference between the standard 29" and the unlimited. I think and hope that the level will be close between the standard and unlimited road specialists and XC specialists.
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### Author:  [@unicycleharry](https://unicyclist.com/u/unicycleharry)
#### Post date: [October 16, 2021, 3:40pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/30 "2021-10-16T15:40:24Z")
Thanks! I upload my .fit files from my Garmin onto [cyclinganalytics.com](http://cyclinganalytics.com). They have a download .csv option.
I see you ride clipless; there are official SPD power meter pedal options now but they are expensive like you mentioned. Also, no cage options for the pedals.
A slightly more budget option are Favero Assiomas, which cost about half of the other two options. This is what I have. These only come in road clipless, but many people have swapped pedal bodies.
> **[A Wild idea for Favero Assioma pedals \[MTB SPD Hack\]](https://www.trainerroad.com/forum/t/a-wild-idea-for-favero-assioma-pedals-mtb-spd-hack/18627/531)**
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> I have manage to install both NXS pedals and Baldwin pedals on the assioma successfully and these are my findings, Xpedo NXS require trimming of the pedal body to fit the pod of the assioma, I file it down to make it fit. Then I added 1mm (10mm...
Post 500, I showed my flat pedal version. Post 531, someone else showed an SPD version that has a cage.
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### Author:  [@toutestbon](https://unicyclist.com/u/toutestbon)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/31 "2021-10-17T12:10:35Z")
Thanks for the information! 🙂
Indeed, shimano assioma duo seem by far the most interesting. I almost want to test some road clipless pedals (I don’t have pedals compatible with the assioma axle and for 60 € more, I can buy a pair of road clipless pedals…and I’ve never really tried a good pair of road clipless pedals).
Maybe not on a geared unicycle (I don’t think that 6 degrees of angular rotation allows to change gear). Anyway, I always find a way to spend your money… 🙃
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### Author:  [@Maxence](https://unicyclist.com/u/Maxence)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/32 "2021-10-17T12:14:49Z")
> [@toutestbon](#):
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> Maybe not on a geared unicycle (I don’t think that 6 degrees of angular rotation allows to change gear).
That would be something to try… 😏
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### Author:  [@one](https://unicyclist.com/u/one)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2024, 5:35am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/33 "2024-10-14T05:35:25Z")
**2024 Mt. Diablo Challenge**
Kostya took part in the Mt Diablo Challenge last Sunday. He was apparently the only unicyclist in the race. We were in the middle of a long heat wave, and the weather was hot and sunny — mid 70s at the start and probably low 80s at the summit.
That was Kostya’s first ever uphill race, and he decided to ride his commuter unicycle - a 700c wheel with a 50mm gravel tire (effectively 28”) and 102mm cranks. He even kept all the decorations installed (tennis balls between the spokes, banana holder with a fresh banana etc.). He ran out of water with about 3 miles to go and had to stop twice to borrow some water from another rider and from a volunteer.
Despite the short cranks, Kostya never walked, even managing to climb “the wall” (the steep final 200 ft) to the summit in his seat.
His finish time is 01:54:31.2, which is within his goal of finishing in sub-2h.
Unfortunately, there is no unicycle category in the race, but bike riders and event organizers were all very friendly and encouraging. Kostya is planning to return next year!
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### Author:  [@one](https://unicyclist.com/u/one)
#### Post date: [October 14, 2024, 5:38am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/34 "2024-10-14T05:38:42Z")
Below is a table with unicycle results since 2018.
| Name | Chip Time | Pace | mi/h | Year | Place | Gender Place | Age | Age Place | Unicycle | Cranks (mm) |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Harrison Hsueh | 1:05:11.2 | 5:49/mile | 10.31 | 2021 | 155 | 145 | 25 | 18 / 33 | 700c geared | 150 |
| Ben Soja | 1:06:59.8 | 5:58/mile | 10.03 | 2019 | 1 | 1 | 31 | 1 / 2 | 29" geared | 137 |
| Harrison Hsueh | 1:09:06.6 | 6:10/mile | 9.72 | 2019 | 2 | 2 | 23 | 1 / 1 | 29" | 125 |
| Harrison Hsueh | 1:13:56.4 | 6:36/mile | 9.09 | 2018 | 1 | 1 | 22 | 1 / 1 | 29" | 125 |
| Harrison Hsueh | 1:16:02 | 6:47/mile | 8.84 | 2016 | 1 | 1 | 21 | 1 / 1 | 29" | 125 |
| Joshua Ehrlich | 1:29:01.1 | 7:56/mile | 7.55 | 2019 | 3 | 3 | 30 | 2 / 2 | 26" geared | 137 |
| Joshua Ehrlich | 1:33:23.3 | 8:20/mile | 7.20 | 2021 | 449 | 392 | 32 | 42 / 48 | 26" geared | 165 |
| Jayden Hirsch | 1:35:20.7 | 8:30/mile | 7.05 | 2025 | 620 | 529 | 17 | 17 / 21 | 28" | 125 |
| Joshua Ehrlich | 1:36:33.3 | 8:37/mile | 6.96 | 2018 | 2 | 2 | 29 | 1 / 1 | 26" geared | 137 |
| Kostya Antonov | 1:39:13.4 | 8:51/mile | 6.77 | 2025 | 655 | 557 | 17 | 18 / 21 | 700c (28") | 102 |
| Jim Sowers | 01:43:54.9 | 9:16/mile | 6.47 | 2019 | 4 | 4 | 57 | 1 / 1 | 29" | 125 |
| Stefan Carpentier | 01:50:35.4 | 9:52/mile | 6.08 | 2018 | 3 | 3 | 53 | 1 / 1 | 29" | 137 |
| Jim Sowers | 01:52:08.0 | 10:00/mile | 5.99 | 2018 | 4 | 4 | 56 | 1 / 2 | 24" | 125 |
| Kostya Antonov | 01:54:31.2 | 10:13/mile | 5.87 | 2024 | 685 | 590 | 16 | 19 / 20 | 700c (28") | 102 |
| Jason Little | 02:00:21.4 | 10:44/mile | 5.58 | 2018 | 5 | 5 | 41 | 1 / 2 | | |
| Jesus Lopez | 02:01:05.9 | 10:48/mile | 5.55 | 2023 | 773 | 663 | 29 | 60 / 61 | 36" | 170 |
| Jesus Lopez | 02:09:45.8 | 11:35/mile | 5.18 | 2022 | 677 | 587 | 28 | 41 / 41 | 36" | 125 |
| Jayden Hirsch | 02:11:08.1 | 11:42/mile | 5.12 | 2021 | 594 | 500 | 13 | 12 / 13 | 24" | 125 |
| Jayden Hirsch | 02:27:24.8 | 13:09/mile | 4.56 | 2018 | 6 | 6 | 10 | 1 / 1 | 29" | 137 |
| Maximillion Duran | 02:27:52.0 | 13:12/mile | 4.54 | 2018 | 7 | 7 | 55 | 2 / 2 | | |
| Ryan Leard | 02:35:02.4 | 13:50/mile | 4.33 | 2018 | 8 | 8 | 42 | 2 / 2 | | |
| Anthony Ladd | 02:38:54.0 | 14:11/mile | 4.23 | 2021 | 615 | 514 | 51 | 65 / 65 | 36" | |
| Glenn Drummond (on ElliptiGO) | 01:23:20.8 | 7:26/mile | 8.06 | 2022 | 449 | 407 | 60 | 27 / 50 | | |
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### Author:  [@one](https://unicyclist.com/u/one)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2025, 3:40am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/35 "2025-10-08T03:40:46Z")
**2025 Mt. Diablo Challenge**
Kostya and Jayden did the Mt Diablo Challenge this year — both 17 years old; both have done the challenge before and are quite experienced riders despite the age. Kostya rode it last year, and Jayden did it twice — in 2018 and in 2021.
Jayden rode a competition-style setup: lightweight 28"/125mm Oracle with the frame rotated 180 degrees, which is definitely not standard :). Kostya took his commuter UDC Trainer with a 50x622 gravel tire (28") and 102mm steel cranks. With an extra water bottle attached to the seatpost, and all the decorations (yes, tennis balls between the spokes, etc.), the uni was quite heavy.
Both set PRs in the race. Kostya finished in **1:39:13.4** , improving by 15 minutes, and Jayden came in at **1:35:20.7** (improved by 36 minutes). Kostya made only one dismount during the race, but mentioned afterward that he forgot to raise the seat, and the combination of low seat and short 100mm cranks was not ideal on steep sections.
This year the organizers allowed them to ride back down, despite both having brakeless unis. After the long descent Kostya continued riding to MVHS to log Marathon distance on Strava.
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### Author:  [@Bug72](https://unicyclist.com/u/Bug72)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2025, 12:11pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/36 "2025-10-08T12:11:19Z")
I know I’m asking this question a year later but why a tennis ball between the spokes?
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### Author:  [@unicycleharry](https://unicyclist.com/u/unicycleharry)
#### Post date: [October 8, 2025, 4:07pm UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/37 "2025-10-08T16:07:25Z")
Awesome time improvements for both of them! Always great to hear about the ride.
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### Author:  [@one](https://unicyclist.com/u/one)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2025, 12:01am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/38 "2025-10-25T00:01:16Z")
I moved the results table to a new thread: [https://unicyclist.com/t/mount-diablo-challenge-unicycle-results-1998-2025/](https://unicyclist.com/t/mount-diablo-challenge-unicycle-results-1998-2025/)
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### Author:  [@one](https://unicyclist.com/u/one)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2025, 10:00am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/39 "2025-10-31T10:00:52Z")
> [@Bug72](#):
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> I know I’m asking this question a year later but why a tennis ball between the spokes?
I actually asked him about it. He said that when he puts water bottles between the spokes, the bottles fly off during fast or technical riding. So, he puts tennis balls there instead.
By the way, I see 3 balls in the 2024 picture, and only 1 now.
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### Author:  [@Setonix](https://unicyclist.com/u/Setonix)
#### Post date: [October 31, 2025, 10:42am UTC](https://unicyclist.com/t/2019-mt-diablo-challenge/127465/40 "2025-10-31T10:42:23Z")
he prolly put water in the other 2 tennnisballs.
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