13 gauge spokes?

I’ve been searching around for 13 gauge spokes and having no luck. Does anyone know where I might be able to find some? So far I’ve only been able to find 12 and 14 gauge in the size I need (185mm). Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Andrew

Unfortunatly I don’t know where you can get them, but I’m curious as to why you would want them over 12 or 14? What rim or hub are you using that uses that size?

Edit: is there even such a thing as a rim or hub that would need 13 gauge spokes?

I remember hearing that the KH Moment hub used 13, but don’t quote me on that. =p

What is the difference between 12, 13, and 14?

The moment hub is advertised as using 13 gauge spokes. I would say not to worry about trying to find 13 gauge and go for the 14. They are easier to find and probably more abundant.

really?

Yes. Really. This is straight from UDC. Look for the bold and highlighted words:p

Rim: New Kris Holm 19” Trials rim, 36 hole, 47mm wide, with eyelets for extra strength.

Weight: 5.7 kg (12 lbs)

Minimun pedal-saddle distance: 65 cm (26 inches)

Color: dark blue with high-durability, glossy clearcoat, laser-etched logo

Frame:7005 T6 Aluminium frame

Hub: KH Moment ISIS hub

Cranks: KH Moment 7075 Aluminum cranks(137mm) (125mm also available)

Pedals: Snafu Concave (black)

Saddle: Kris Holm Fusion Street gel saddle with front lift handle and removable cover.

Seatpost: Alloy 27.2 x 300mm bolt-on style

Tire: 19 x 2.50 Maxxis Creepy Crawler trials, black with schraeder valve, 20-inch inner tube and rim tape

Spokes: New Black stainless steel 13G with nipple eyelets to make a stronger wheel

Seatpost clamp: New double-bolted, aluminium.

EDIT:

This is from the KH website:

Kris Holm Trials/Street 20" Click to enlarge
Carefully crafted to withstand abuse while remaining lightweight, the KH20 trials and street unicycle is built specifically for trials and street riding. Also a great kids mountain unicycle.

Select Features:

* 7005 T6 Aluminum frame
* KH Moment ISIS hub,
* KH Moment  7075 Aluminum cranks (137 mm) (125mm also available)
* Fusion Street gel saddle
* 19” x 47 mm x 36 hole, double wall KH rim with eyelets
* [B]High strength 13 gauge spokes (172 mm length)[/B]
* Weight: 5.65 kg

is it possible to use any othe gauge in the hub?

Speaking in technical terms, I guess it is. A thicker gauge is typically stronger than a thinner gauge. Using a thicker gauge lets you use less spokes because of the added strength. Less spokes means less weight. I think that was the intention a long time ago. Bicycle rims and hubs started using less spokes as technology progressed.

but any gauge will fit through the holes in the hub?

Re: 13 gauge spokes?

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, p1choco <> wrote:
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> Speaking in technical terms, I guess it is. A thicker gauge is
> typically stronger than a thinner gauge.

No. A thicker spoke might give you a stronger spoke in a single
static test, it doesn’t necesarily give you a stronger wheel.
Further, a thicker spoke is reasonably likely to be weaker under
typical fatigue loading in a wheel.

regards, Ian SMith

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Except thicker spokes weigh more?

I never said a thicker spoke will make your wheel stronger, but you said yourself, “A thicker spoke might give you a stronger spoke in a single static test…”. And pretty much that is all I said. Further more, how and why is a thicker spoke likely to be weaker under typical fatigue loading in a wheel?

That may be the case but you are dealing with less of them. If you were to compare identical rims and hubs laced with a) 48 12g spokes and b) 36 14g spokes, I’m assuming that the later will come in weighing a tiny bit less or maybe the weight might even out.

yes, but were all talking about 36 hole wheels correct?

not many unis use 48 holes…

Not many but the DX and QU-AX trials use 48 hole. There are others as well but I’m not going to track down all the unis that use 48 hole. I was just pointing out the weight difference between the spokes.