Would you buy this dvd?

[SkierAlex]

Originally Posted by unifreak7

i'm not talking about great vids and other riders amanda. More talking about tutorials. I add on a highlight part for good measure. All these vids online are actually hurting the sport. If people would divide into teams and put out dvds it would give a better chance of companies picking up these DVDs to sell. Now, there would be X amount of teams around the world that don't release anything online. These teams would watch other vids some riders are putting online to see if there were riders good enough to be picked up for a team. Now there is alot more motive, to be on a filming team, which wouldn't be nearly as hard as getting on a sponsor team, AND a filming team would have no max number of riders. More motive, more progression. Besides all the big companies don't look at youtube for new people. Kind of a joke with all the BS online. Another reason why it's hurting the sport.

I kind of agree. In other extreme sports there are heaps of professionally made DVD's and not so many online. If people actually filmed a proper DVD they would make money. I mean koxx-one have released heaps of online vids and only one DVD and lots of the online vids are better than the DVD IMO.

[unicycledood]

Originally Posted by SkierAlex

I kind of agree. In other extreme sports there are heaps of professionally made DVD's and not so many online. If people actually filmed a proper DVD they would make money. I mean koxx-one have released heaps of online vids and only one DVD and lots of the online vids are better than the DVD IMO.

Yes well the problem with making a DVD is that there are so many good riders puting out free vids on the internet. So why would you pay for a DVD when there are so many riders willing to put out free vids?

Defect was so amazing because they had groundbreaking tricks and almost none of the riders from defect were putting out free videos at the time.

[ivan]

Originally Posted by unifreak7

i'm not talking about great vids and other riders amanda. More talking about tutorials. I add on a highlight part for good measure. All these vids online are actually hurting the sport. If people would divide into teams and put out dvds it would give a better chance of companies picking up these DVDs to sell. Now, there would be X amount of teams around the world that don't release anything online. These teams would watch other vids some riders are putting online to see if there were riders good enough to be picked up for a team. Now there is alot more motive, to be on a filming team, which wouldn't be nearly as hard as getting on a sponsor team, AND a filming team would have no max number of riders. More motive, more progression. Besides all the big companies don't look at youtube for new people. Kind of a joke with all the BS online. Another reason why it's hurting the sport.

I think it's the big companies that would hurt the sport. Not online videos.

[SkierAlex]

Originally Posted by unicycledood

Yes well the problem with making a DVD is that there are so many good riders puting out free vids on the internet. So why would you pay for a DVD when there are so many riders willing to put out free vids?

Defect was so amazing because they had groundbreaking tricks and almost none of the riders from defect were putting out free videos at the time.

Yeah, defect must of been amazing in 2005. But you're right, most people wouldn't buy DVD's because of all the online ones. But then again there heaps of good skate, skiing, DH and whatever else vids online yet heaps of people buy DVD's of them. I would buy a unicycle DVD if I knew the riding would be some of the best in the world, but it would also need to be very well made with good editing and all the rest. Defect is a great example of this. There are heaps of online vids with good riding but they would definitely be better to watch if someone like Dan Heaton filmed and edited them.

Also, lots of people would like a hard copy of a video, or may not be able to download heaps of videos off the internet.

[1-wheeled-grape]

I would get one... if I had the money to spare for extra postage.

[Matt_V]

I think I would buy one. As long as the quality of the tutorials was good. I liked your 720 tutorial, but I didn't really think that your crankflip and doubleflip tutorials were very helpful. Those were a long time ago though. If I know that they will be made in a helpful way I would buy one for sure 100%.

[Conrad.Nguyen]

I'll buy one if the quality is good.

[unifreak7]

I think a lot of you are forgetting what i've already said. If the riders groupped together and eyeballed the videos that did hit online (teamless riders) and picked up the rider from their internet video once they got good enough there wouldn't be any good riders putting anything online. No more of this free viewing stuff. Haven't you ever wondered why a rider will get better and better and seem to quit aronud the age of 18-20. Schooling for a job that actually makes money or something else that makes money. Ryan A, Kevin M, Jeff G, Zach B, Dan H, basically all the Defect riders except me. So everyone who doesn't like my idea of this you can never complain about riders quiting, because it's basically your ideals that made them quit. Free videos for all and no motive for the riders.

[surfer1024]

Originally Posted by unifreak7

I think a lot of you are forgetting what i've already said. If the riders groupped together and eyeballed the videos that did hit online (teamless riders) and picked up the rider from their internet video once they got good enough there wouldn't be any good riders putting anything online. No more of this free viewing stuff. Haven't you ever wondered why a rider will get better and better and seem to quit aronud the age of 18-20. Schooling for a job that actually makes money or something else that makes money. Ryan A, Kevin M, Jeff G, Zach B, Dan H, basically all the Defect riders except me. So everyone who doesn't like my idea of this you can never complain about riders quiting, because it's basically your ideals that made them quit. Free videos for all and no motive for the riders.

I'm sure a lot of the "good" riders would like this idea if some people would step up and film and edit them really well. Theres only a handful of people (unicyclists on the forums) who are really good at editing especially and most of us are average.

[dudewithasock]

Originally Posted by unifreak7

I think a lot of you are forgetting what i've already said. If the riders groupped together and eyeballed the videos that did hit online (teamless riders) and picked up the rider from their internet video once they got good enough there wouldn't be any good riders putting anything online. No more of this free viewing stuff. Haven't you ever wondered why a rider will get better and better and seem to quit aronud the age of 18-20. Schooling for a job that actually makes money or something else that makes money. Ryan A, Kevin M, Jeff G, Zach B, Dan H, basically all the Defect riders except me. So everyone who doesn't like my idea of this you can never complain about riders quiting, because it's basically your ideals that made them quit. Free videos for all and no motive for the riders.

I'm not seeing the problem here. They quit for schooling to get accredited degrees, jobs they truly enjoy, and money they can easily live off of. It's their "problem" if they got burned out on unicycling, not ours - they can live their own life. The LARGE majority of us are hobbyist riders or fitness riders.

Anyone who actually complains about riders quitting, for whatever reason, doesn't understand that some of those highly respected unicyclists just don't want to do it any more, and there's nothing wrong with that.

That said, the reason I said I wouldn't buy this dvd is because, like you said, there are tons of tutorials for free, in video and article form. The only reason I might buy a unicyling DVD is if the editing and music are really good, and the riding is entertaining, not informative.

[amanda.gallacher]

Originally Posted by unifreak7

I think a lot of you are forgetting what i've already said. If the riders groupped together and eyeballed the videos that did hit online (teamless riders) and picked up the rider from their internet video once they got good enough there wouldn't be any good riders putting anything online. No more of this free viewing stuff. Haven't you ever wondered why a rider will get better and better and seem to quit aronud the age of 18-20. Schooling for a job that actually makes money or something else that makes money. Ryan A, Kevin M, Jeff G, Zach B, Dan H, basically all the Defect riders except me. So everyone who doesn't like my idea of this you can never complain about riders quiting, because it's basically your ideals that made them quit. Free videos for all and no motive for the riders.

So if they quit at 18 - 20 because they don't get any money, why is it that you'll often find trials bikers, footballers, tennis players and any other hobby you wanna think of, that continue doing it up until their 20's, 30's, 40's etc with no money involved.
Personally, I probably won't take a unicycle with me to University next year. Not because I'm not making money from it, but because people are far too judgmental of it. Unicycling to the general public eye isn't cool no matter what you dress it up to be. I think that's the real reason riders quit, not because of money.

[joemarshall]

Originally Posted by unifreak7

I think a lot of you are forgetting what i've already said. If the riders groupped together and eyeballed the videos that did hit online (teamless riders) and picked up the rider from their internet video once they got good enough there wouldn't be any good riders putting anything online. No more of this free viewing stuff. Haven't you ever wondered why a rider will get better and better and seem to quit aronud the age of 18-20. Schooling for a job that actually makes money or something else that makes money. Ryan A, Kevin M, Jeff G, Zach B, Dan H, basically all the Defect riders except me. So everyone who doesn't like my idea of this you can never complain about riders quiting, because it's basically your ideals that made them quit. Free videos for all and no motive for the riders.

What a silly idea.

Hardly anyone, not even Kris Holm, makes enough money to live off unicycling. They just do it because they like doing it. If people really are doing unicycling purely for the money, then they are idiots, they'd be better off doing something else that makes more money, like delivering newspapers, or working in an office.

Having videos of people on the internet is the only way people know about many of the good riders. If you made a cartel of all the good riders and didn't allow them to put any videos out in freely available places, no-one would know who they were.

If you want to make money off dvds, you have to produce something better than your average kid making an internet video, simple as, rather than trying to somehow make all good riders in the world do their tricks only on dvds.

Joe

[dudewithasock]

Originally Posted by amanda.gallacher

Personally, I probably won't take a unicycle with me to University next year.

Whoa whoa whoa! Let's not go crazy here! How will you get to class from your dorm?? Walking??

[caudy]

I'm going to leeds university soon and I'll be taking my unicycle. It's still something that I greatly enjoy so I'm going to continue with it for as long as I want.

The reason why people start unicycling is for the enjoyment factor and the fun of riding and that is something that people often forget. I don't think that everthing should be so financially orientated.

I would possibly buy the tutorial dvd. How much do you reckon shipping would be to the uk.

[einrad101]

i would by it! i dont always have an internet connection to watch videos online for tricks, so having something i could rip to my computer would be great!! as long as the quality is good.
I would still prefer an actual person to help me out with tricks and stuff, but closest club/unicyclists i know is in NYC, and that is like 2+ hour drive or longer if i take the train