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[JJuggle]

When it comes to free speech issues I make it easy on myself and just go with whatever Nat Hentoff says.





















Can anybody tell me what Nat Hentoff says on this one?

[monkeyman]

According to wikipedia, he completely supports free speech "and excoriates those who he feels favor censorship in any form".

[john_childs]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

According to wikipedia, he completely supports free speech "and excoriates those who he feels favor censorship in any form".

Those of us already familiar with Nat Hentoff know which side he would stand on without needing to go to Wikipedia. You ought to read some of his books, essays, or articles. He's well spoken and worth the read. He writes for the Village Voice and that's a good place to start for reading up on him.

I find it funny that our resident research librarian is asking us what Nat Hentoff's view would be without pointing us to a relevant article by Nat Hentoff.

I don't know if he has written about this case yet. I do hope he does.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by john_childs

Those of us already familiar with Nat Hentoff know which side he would stand on without needing to go to Wikipedia.

Or the people already familiar with Raphael.

You ought to read some of his books, essays, or articles. He's well spoken and worth the read. He writes for the Village Voice and that's a good place to start for reading up on him.

Consider it favorite-ed. I will read it tomorrow.

[john_childs]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

Consider it favorite-ed. I will read it tomorrow.

He also writes for Jewish publications. Archives of his articles from there are here.

I wish the Village Voice had an actual archive of his articles. Maybe they do, I just can't find it on their site.

I first read of Nat Hentoff when I read his book "Free Speech For Me But Not For Thee" back in the early 90's. Since then I've followed him in a passing manner. I don't regularly read The Village Voice, but if I see an editorial by him in a newspaper I'll read it for sure.

[JJuggle]

Originally Posted by john_childs

I find it funny that our resident research librarian is asking us what Nat Hentoff's view would be without pointing us to a relevant article by Nat Hentoff.

Nat Hentoff is to free speech as Playtex is to breasts. He supports it faithfully and does so by accentuating its natural beauty without the need for false embellishment.

I was being flippant by suggesting I didn't know his views on the matter, playing the part of one who needs others expert opinions to form his own. I don't know why I did that, but I thought it would be amusing not confusing.

[monkeyman]

Originally Posted by john_childs

You ought to read some of his books, essays, or articles. He's well spoken and worth the read. He writes for the Village Voice and that's a good place to start for reading up on him.

I like this guy...he seems pretty centered, and concerned mainly with the Constitution (specifically, upholding it...something lacking in our government as of late).

[john_childs]

Originally Posted by monkeyman

I like this guy...he seems pretty centered, and concerned mainly with the Constitution (specifically, upholding it...something lacking in our government as of late).

That's why I like him. Always makes well founded and well reasoned points.

This thread motivated me to make a Google News alert for "Nat Hentoff". Now I'll be alerted when he has articles or editorials published.

[BillyTheMountain]

Originally Posted by john_childs

Kind of fun to have groups on the religious right and the ACLU on the same side of a Supreme Court argument. I like that, especially when involving free speech.

Why do you like THAT?

and where is the religious LEFT?

[john_childs]

Originally Posted by BillyTheMountain

Why do you like THAT?

and where is the religious LEFT?

I like that because free speech is not a partisan issue. I like cases that demonstrate that free speech needs to be defended by both the left and the right.

The religious left is out busy trying to ordain homosexual ministers. They don't seem to be part of this issue or are for some reason not interested.

[BillyTheMountain]

Originally Posted by john_childs

I like that because free speech is not a partisan issue. I like cases that demonstrate that free speech needs to be defended by both the left and the right.

The religious left is out busy trying to ordain homosexual ministers. They don't seem to be part of this issue or are for some reason not interested.

Maybe Civil Liberties are not a left-right issue, tho in the USA the right tends to restrict them more.

Is therer anything else like free speech, that needs to be defended by both the left and the right?

[Chris.James]

Originally Posted by JJuggle

Nat Hentoff is to free speech as Playtex is to breasts. He supports it faithfully and does so by accentuating its natural beauty without the need for false embellishment.

lol, nice analogy.

[dan de man]

this reminds me of some thing funny that happened in class the last year

our teacher used to get on femenazi rants
the whole primise of the 30min long rant "was a woman do anything a man can do"
she asked the question

Originally Posted by my teacher

CAN ANY ONE HERE THINK OF ANY THING A MAN CAN DO AND A WOMAN CANT!

i calmly replied

Originally Posted by me

Produce sperm?

she stopped those femenazi rant after that

[john_childs]

Originally Posted by BillyTheMountain

Maybe Civil Liberties are not a left-right issue, tho in the USA the right tends to restrict them more.

Both sides are just as guilty of restricting free speech. Neither side is a saint. If there was a score card I would call it a draw. The left is demonstratively willing and able to restrict free speech when it suits them. Likewise with the right. The left doesn't have a stellar record so saying they aren't as evil as the right just doesn't fly.

The left and the right tend to go about restricting free speech in different ways with different methods, but the end result is the same.

That is why I try to view free speech issues in a non partisan way. That's the only way to stay consistent and truthful on the issue.

My ideal politician would probably be a Republican with Nat Hentoff's views on the constitution and civil rights.

[tomblackwood]

Originally Posted by john_childs

My ideal politician would probably be a Republican with Nat Hentoff's views on the constitution and civil rights.

My ideal politician would probably be a Democrat with John Childs's views on the constitution, civil rights, unicycling, and micro brews.