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Old 2007-03-09, 04:18 PM   #46
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personally, Im happy that luke posted this thread.



I like to know what people are doing, and I thinks its amazing that he did a blind treyflip.

who cares if he doesn't have footage or hasn't made a movie?

I believe that he's done it just from what I've seen in the past.

He was also probably really excited when he landed it(if I had just learned crankflips or 360 unispins or something I'd probably come on and tell people that I learned them, even if I didn't have footage)
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Old 2007-03-09, 04:22 PM   #47
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I can't stand seeing Shaun getting beaten here. It's very true what he's saying. A lot of times when I am working on a new trick, I don't want anyone to land it first. Especially if I believe I thought of it first. I don't like people using my ideas to make their mark. Whether Luke knew that Shaun had been thinking of the trick or not, it doesn't matter Shaun's going to want to land it first.

I mean in the ideal world that every unicyclist wants to see new tricks done, it doesn't matter who does them, sure, Shaun was out of line. But there's a lot of us who take unicycling quite competitively. When I'm here in North Carolina without any other riders with me, I just want to hit all the new and bigger tricks by myself. But when I'm riding like at UNICON or whatever, I don't care who hits the trick, I don't care who wins the competition, I just want to be a part of it. I think once Shaun gets to FLUCK, he'll start getting pumped about other people landing a trick, even if its before him. I don't think Shaun is out of line for saying what he's saying, I hear him. And I agree, I don't think there's really a need to tell people you did a trick if we can't see it. No one has seen anyone do that for a long time I don't think.

My 360 Sidespin video was posted mostly because I knew that otherwise I won't have a video done until April for BUC, and I wanted to see people try to mix it in with flip tricks (which Luke did by the way).

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all it seems to me is that your worried lukes gona take your place or sumthing, hes getting pretty good you know, and id much rather watch his stuff becos its alot different to the stuff we see everyday from you, he has flow!
No clue where you're coming from with this. Shaun pretty much defines flow. Other than the first time he lands a trick, like a full varialflip, or something, he will film and refilm a trick until it looks good. His tricks are smooth and have almost no flaws. Nothing against Luke for his flow, I love his style too. However, I've decided to tell the world that your implication that Shaun doesn't have flow should be considered false.

Alright, that's all I've got, and if you want to argue with me, you can't do it until tomorrow, because its my birthday, so I'm right until then.

Later!!!! Kevin McMullin - see you Sunday, Shaun
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Old 2007-03-09, 04:36 PM   #48
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yeah i wasnt having a go at you Shaun, more just some of the attitudes of this thread

it just seems unnecessary for people to get this agro over to something that i think is rather trivial...
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Old 2007-03-09, 04:47 PM   #49
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I can't stand seeing Shaun getting beaten here. It's very true what he's saying. A lot of times when I am working on a new trick, I don't want anyone to land it first. Especially if I believe I thought of it first. I don't like people using my ideas to make their mark. Whether Luke knew that Shaun had been thinking of the trick or not, it doesn't matter Shaun's going to want to land it first.
I think you guys are taking it too much to the competition side. If you get anoyed by someone landing something before you do you just keep it to yourself. there`s no need to go saying it`s not legit or whatever or "boohoo I thought of it first but didn`t tell anyone because it was a secret".

try harder! if the guy got it before you did it`s probably because he have trained more than you.

someone landed the damn trick. period. that can be only good for all of us.
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Old 2007-03-09, 04:55 PM   #50
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by the way, happy birthday!!
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Old 2007-03-09, 06:17 PM   #51
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I don't doubt he hit it. I saw by the smoothness of his blind3spin in his last vid he'd do it first. No matter to me. I don't mind that he hit it first, he also hit the trey fakie, fakie change first. He's a great rider, and that's just it, i thought great riders were more relaxed about what they did. Chill, excited, but like, I can wait until i have organized a video for it. I did a trick i'm pretty excited about over a month ago, only like 2 people know about it, but I haven't said anythign about it, waiting until a vid can be out (a month is a long time to wait).

I was out of line, but I think people got the wrong impression, of what about, the situation I hated. It's just the chill factor of the great riders (of course I mean trick chillness, since of course I wasn't chill about this topic). This thread also got me to go out and ride 40 minutes imbetween classes. I'm pretty excited about teh result (what I learned), more stuff for the flip vid. Sorry guys. And Luke, I love you and you're amazing, just didn't expect you to be so out spoken with tricks.

-Shaun Johanneson

p.s. I've calmed down now, haha, thanks Kevin. (All I needed was for one person to at least see where i'm coming from, they didn't have to agree, just see where i'm coming from, then i'm better.) Sorry again guy. My flip vid should be out tonight. Hopefully you will judge it unbaised to what you think about me.
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Old 2007-03-09, 09:05 PM   #52
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I can't stand seeing Shaun getting beaten here. It's very true what he's saying. A lot of times when I am working on a new trick, I don't want anyone to land it first. Especially if I believe I thought of it first. I don't like people using my ideas to make their mark. Whether Luke knew that Shaun had been thinking of the trick or not, it doesn't matter Shaun's going to want to land it first.

I mean in the ideal world that every unicyclist wants to see new tricks done, it doesn't matter who does them, sure, Shaun was out of line. But there's a lot of us who take unicycling quite competitively. When I'm here in North Carolina without any other riders with me, I just want to hit all the new and bigger tricks by myself. But when I'm riding like at UNICON or whatever, I don't care who hits the trick, I don't care who wins the competition, I just want to be a part of it. I think once Shaun gets to FLUCK, he'll start getting pumped about other people landing a trick, even if its before him. I don't think Shaun is out of line for saying what he's saying, I hear him. And I agree, I don't think there's really a need to tell people you did a trick if we can't see it. No one has seen anyone do that for a long time I don't think.

My 360 Sidespin video was posted mostly because I knew that otherwise I won't have a video done until April for BUC, and I wanted to see people try to mix it in with flip tricks (which Luke did by the way).


No clue where you're coming from with this. Shaun pretty much defines flow. Other than the first time he lands a trick, like a full varialflip, or something, he will film and refilm a trick until it looks good. His tricks are smooth and have almost no flaws. Nothing against Luke for his flow, I love his style too. However, I've decided to tell the world that your implication that Shaun doesn't have flow should be considered false.

Alright, that's all I've got, and if you want to argue with me, you can't do it until tomorrow, because its my birthday, so I'm right until then.

Later!!!! Kevin McMullin - see you Sunday, Shaun
Kevin, we share the same birthday, happy birthday =)
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Old 2007-03-09, 11:13 PM   #53
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Hey Kevin. Your the man. Good to see that someone here can see both sides of the argument, because most of us are easily biased!
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Old 2007-03-10, 05:35 PM   #54
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Do people seriously not notice that there is no subject (main noun) or verb in the sentence "Your the man"? It's mind-boggling. And, yeah, the errors in almost all of these posts are incredibly bad (including some of mine, i'm sure), but sometimes it gets to the point where i can't even understand WTF a person is talking about in their posts. That happened to me with a couple of Shaun's posts in this thread. People, seriously, if you're going to spend the time to write something, why not make it intelligible?

(Non-native Anglophones are exempt from this criticism. The rest of us will try to make sense of whatever you write, because your errors are forgivable.)

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"There" does not equal "their" or "they're".
"Till" does not equal "until", "'til" does. A "till" is like a cash register, and it's a noun.

I could continue indefinitely, i'm sure, but i'm tired. I'm going to take a nap.
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I've been away from the forums (and unicycling in general) for a while, partly because I was travelling but partly because of threads like this and the attitudes shown in this thread, leading to the apparent deterioration of quality on the forums. This is crazy. What happened to unicycling?

It used to be such a relaxed welcoming community where everyone was happy to just share in something as ridiculous as unicycling. Now its this huge competition, and a race to land tricks, and beat each other. We're still way too small to be worrying about this kind of competition.

People just need to relax, quit whining and ride. Don't worry about pushing the sport, getting sponsors and releasing vids - that'll happen naturally. Just ride.

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I've been away from the forums (and unicycling in general) for a while, partly because I was travelling but partly because of threads like this and the attitudes shown in this thread, leading to the apparent deterioration of quality on the forums. This is crazy. What happened to unicycling?

It used to be such a relaxed welcoming community where everyone was happy to just share in something as ridiculous as unicycling. Now its this huge competition, and a race to land tricks, and beat each other. We're still way too small to be worrying about this kind of competition.

People just need to relax, quit whining and ride. Don't worry about pushing the sport, getting sponsors and releasing vids - that'll happen naturally. Just ride.

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Old 2007-03-10, 10:22 PM   #57
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I've been away from the forums (and unicycling in general) for a while, partly because I was travelling but partly because of threads like this and the attitudes shown in this thread, leading to the apparent deterioration of quality on the forums. This is crazy. What happened to unicycling?

It used to be such a relaxed welcoming community where everyone was happy to just share in something as ridiculous as unicycling. Now its this huge competition, and a race to land tricks, and beat each other. We're still way too small to be worrying about this kind of competition.

People just need to relax, quit whining and ride. Don't worry about pushing the sport, getting sponsors and releasing vids - that'll happen naturally. Just ride.

David
I don't personally agree with you, but I'm sure there will be others that do.

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hee hee eh I'm back! I was at my ranch eh in eh ehh hee Crawford Texas with my wonderful wife. We were baking eh, cookies and cold cream pies to help combat global warming. All of you who care about eh spelling, you need to go to eh muslim land with the rest of the terrorist who don't believe in our God! If you eh can't understand a thread because a person used "their, there, your, you're" incorrectly, then you are a horrible english speaker and reader.
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I don't personally agree with you, but I'm sure there will be others that do.

Mike
Can you elaborate. I think you probably mean the happening naturally part. I didn't mean lets not try and advance the sport but there is no need to push and drive so intensely.

I kind of see it like crazy parents who are really pushing there kid to be good and succeed in hockey (its regional, input whatever sport you like cricket, soccer, baseball, etc.). They push him so hard that a few years in he no longer enjoys the game at all.

Look at Ryan Atkins. He's an incredible rider and he's so laid back and relaxed. He only rides when he wants to and only for himself. He's not worried about all the extra junk. He may release a video every once in a while but he's not always on here talking shit and hyping it up, and he's not trying to beat anyone. And look how much he has advanced the sport.

I think this can be a pretty sweet discussion.

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