Koxx one XTP frame - Page 2

mornish · 2006-08-09, 08:20 PM

thanks evan, it makes more sense now.

swarbrim · 2006-08-09, 09:30 PM

[QUOTE=mornish, I think only 2 peole have broken them

[/QUOTE]

I think that figure is 4. Joe Hodges (what hasent he broken?), Ryan at UNICON before High Jump, A member of SB uni club, an Austrian has broken one and for some reason I think there is another...

Mike

onelesscar · 2006-08-09, 09:40 PM

this is kinda off-topic, but on the subject of light frames, would it be possible (or feasible) to make a carbon fiber unicycle frame? it would sure be lighter...but could it be strong enough?

swarbrim · 2006-08-09, 09:51 PM

Done, Roger from UDC UK has 2 Carbon Fibre frames, one for his freestyle and one for his MUni. I think thats right... Dont shoot me.

Mike

Jerrick · 2006-08-09, 10:31 PM

Why do so many people argue about a trials frame, not being flat, for trials use?

You dont need a flat crown for trials, unless all of you guys are buying trials unis to learn freestyle?

I think this frame looks great. I heard about the prototype breaking like a DX frame would, but is there any enws yet on these new frames?

mornish · 2006-08-09, 10:40 PM

I'm guessing that sense they are being sold now theyre stronger, but I'm not sure. it would be better for trials than the KH, but for street(depending on what kind of street you do) a KH frame would be better.

burjzyntski · 2006-08-09, 11:01 PM

@Evan:

What is your point about them using the same aluminum peice in both welds?
I have no doubt in my mind that anything koxx or koxx-one makes is very durable.

about the carbon fiber frame,
it wouldnt be cost effective - carbon fiber is expensive in large amounts, and a frame's worth of carbon fiber would no doubt be in the high-hundreds, or more likely, few-thousands

it would be more ergonomic to make a carbon fiber reinforced frame, since carbon fiber alone lacks the elasticity that common metals have - your frame and seatposts are exposed to high stress (assuming we're talking trials/muni) and require the ability to flex, even if it is only a small fraction of a centimeter. carbon fiber will crack before it gets the chance to bend. a crack in your CF frame could be very dangerous for you, not to mention a loss of a hefty amount of money.

mornish · 2006-08-10, 05:24 AM

has anyone other than yoggi tried this frame?

nickjb · 2006-08-10, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mornish

has anyone other than yoggi tried this frame?

Quite a few people used one in the trials comp at unicon

Lutz · 2006-08-10, 08:41 AM

I think every trials unicyclist do a few street/freestyle tricks too. Even Kris Holm do gliding and coasting. I also cant see something what makes the frame worth the money, if it is heavier than the Kris Holm frame.

Probailer2 · 2006-08-10, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trials_uni

I didnt say that the XTP was stronger...Im saying that the KH frame is not as indestructable as some may think.

Yeah for sure, everything if destructable.
But the KH should last long if you are not Ryan Atkins.

But it's no problem for him, he get's a new one for free (I hope)

PM

Lutz · 2006-08-10, 09:11 AM

Thats the best thing on KH I think, for example Wogri get a new one for free too, when his frame broke, and he is not sponsored by Kris Holm. A guy from Germany has destroyed his Koxx cranks. When he asked yoggi for new ones, or rabat on new ones, Yoggi only said, that he must practice often do get a better technik.

Probailer2 · 2006-08-10, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lutz

Thats the best thing on KH I think, for example Wogri get a new one for free too, when his frame broke, and he is not sponsored by Kris Holm. A guy from Germany has destroyed his Koxx cranks. When he asked yoggi for new ones, or rabat on new ones, Yoggi only said, that he must practice often do get a better technik.

Destroyed his Koxx cranks?
Damm those are strong cranks, how did he do that

Got a picture of the cranks?
But I think it would be fair if the guy gets a new pair off cranks.

PM

Lutz · 2006-08-10, 10:25 AM

He dont destroyed them realy, but the "thing" inside the crank where the pedall is in, get losely (yes he use pedall spacers). Because of this the pedall could move.

Jim · 2006-08-10, 12:11 PM

I think ntappin had a similar problem with his cranks http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/sho...0&postcount=15
and is still waiting for replacements

jim

2006-08-09, 08:20 PM	#16
mornish magic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tomorrow. Age: 19 Posts: 5,895	thanks evan, it makes more sense now. Last edited by mornish; 2006-08-09 at 08:21 PM.

2006-08-09, 09:30 PM	#17
swarbrim blank Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 23 Posts: 1,415	[QUOTE=mornish, I think only 2 peole have broken them[/QUOTE] I think that figure is 4. Joe Hodges (what hasent he broken?), Ryan at UNICON before High Jump, A member of SB uni club, an Austrian has broken one and for some reason I think there is another... Mike __________________ Add me at: mike41ishere <att> hotmail <dott> com 'i like things big' - Amanda 'Crankflips are like woman, hard to understand' Peter/Probailer2

2006-08-09, 09:40 PM	#18
onelesscar I get places on 75% fewer wheels Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Irvine / Modesto Age: 25 Posts: 1,129	this is kinda off-topic, but on the subject of light frames, would it be possible (or feasible) to make a carbon fiber unicycle frame? it would sure be lighter...but could it be strong enough? __________________ Catching the coker fever.

2006-08-09, 09:51 PM	#19
swarbrim blank Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Exeter, Devon, UK Age: 23 Posts: 1,415	Done, Roger from UDC UK has 2 Carbon Fibre frames, one for his freestyle and one for his MUni. I think thats right... Dont shoot me. Mike __________________ Add me at: mike41ishere <att> hotmail <dott> com 'i like things big' - Amanda 'Crankflips are like woman, hard to understand' Peter/Probailer2

2006-08-09, 10:31 PM	#20
Jerrick King of Carnies Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane, WA Age: 23 Posts: 9,744	Why do so many people argue about a trials frame, not being flat, for trials use? You dont need a flat crown for trials, unless all of you guys are buying trials unis to learn freestyle? I think this frame looks great. I heard about the prototype breaking like a DX frame would, but is there any enws yet on these new frames? __________________ Just bumming around MR~~~~~~~~~Team Forrest~~~~~~~~~Team Dirty Bird!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Check out my Band.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!Quack!~~~~Team Spencer!~~~Member of the MRIS. Want some advice? Do better. ~Jerrick

2006-08-09, 10:40 PM	#21
mornish magic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tomorrow. Age: 19 Posts: 5,895	I'm guessing that sense they are being sold now theyre stronger, but I'm not sure. it would be better for trials than the KH, but for street(depending on what kind of street you do) a KH frame would be better.

2006-08-09, 11:01 PM	#22
burjzyntski be norml Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hobe Sound, Florida (HSL) Age: 24 Posts: 1,731	@Evan: What is your point about them using the same aluminum peice in both welds? I have no doubt in my mind that anything koxx or koxx-one makes is very durable. about the carbon fiber frame, it wouldnt be cost effective - carbon fiber is expensive in large amounts, and a frame's worth of carbon fiber would no doubt be in the high-hundreds, or more likely, few-thousands it would be more ergonomic to make a carbon fiber reinforced frame, since carbon fiber alone lacks the elasticity that common metals have - your frame and seatposts are exposed to high stress (assuming we're talking trials/muni) and require the ability to flex, even if it is only a small fraction of a centimeter. carbon fiber will crack before it gets the chance to bend. a crack in your CF frame could be very dangerous for you, not to mention a loss of a hefty amount of money. __________________ It's no good being Polish unless you prove it once a day. "Every silver lining's got a touch of gray." -Nude & Proud-

2006-08-10, 05:24 AM	#23
mornish magic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tomorrow. Age: 19 Posts: 5,895	has anyone other than yoggi tried this frame?

2006-08-10, 08:41 AM	#25
Lutz einradshows.de Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ruhrgebiet/Kaiserslautern Germany Age: 26 Posts: 2,421	I think every trials unicyclist do a few street/freestyle tricks too. Even Kris Holm do gliding and coasting. I also cant see something what makes the frame worth the money, if it is heavier than the Kris Holm frame. __________________ Sponsors: Adidas Outdoor AJATA Einradversand Kris Holm Unicycles Slackline-Tools lutzeichholz.de

2006-08-10, 09:11 AM	#27
Lutz einradshows.de Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ruhrgebiet/Kaiserslautern Germany Age: 26 Posts: 2,421	Thats the best thing on KH I think, for example Wogri get a new one for free too, when his frame broke, and he is not sponsored by Kris Holm. A guy from Germany has destroyed his Koxx cranks. When he asked yoggi for new ones, or rabat on new ones, Yoggi only said, that he must practice often do get a better technik. __________________ Sponsors: Adidas Outdoor AJATA Einradversand Kris Holm Unicycles Slackline-Tools lutzeichholz.de

2006-08-10, 10:25 AM	#29
Lutz einradshows.de Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ruhrgebiet/Kaiserslautern Germany Age: 26 Posts: 2,421	He dont destroyed them realy, but the "thing" inside the crank where the pedall is in, get losely (yes he use pedall spacers). Because of this the pedall could move. __________________ Sponsors: Adidas Outdoor AJATA Einradversand Kris Holm Unicycles Slackline-Tools lutzeichholz.de

2006-08-10, 12:11 PM	#30
Jim . Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 356	I think ntappin had a similar problem with his cranks http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/sho...0&postcount=15 and is still waiting for replacements jim

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