Unicyclist Community

home gallery forums webmail links map donate
Go Back   Unicyclist Community > Unicycling Discussion > General Unicycling Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 2002-12-09, 08:50 AM   #1
teachndad
ONE for the...Off Road
 
teachndad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: West San Fernando Valley, Southern California
Posts: 1,076
replace Summit frame with Yuni frame?

Anyone know if you can chuck the heavy Summit frame and then take the wheelset and put it in a Yuni frame?

John Childs had made a comment that buying a Summit was like buying a splined wheelset with a free frame and that got me thinking.

I have the seat and seatpost already that will go in a YUni frame. I figured this might create a lower weight Trials bike for spit more.

I am not up on the technical differences in bearing ODs and IDs, widths, etc.
__________________
Rod Wylie
teachndad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-09, 04:30 PM   #2
evilewan
death or glory
 
evilewan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: stirling, central scotland.
Posts: 799
the Yunimbus ii frame takes 40mm od bearings, and you can get these for the profile too,

the specs page for the summit says 41mm od beraings and i suspect that the 1mm diference shouldn't be a problem.

i seem to remember hearing that tiawanese frames are designed for 42mm bearings anyway.
so i'd say definatly probably


the hub width shouldn't be a problem either,
you can strech a yunimbus ii frame to fit a profile so i'm sure you could fit the kh hub in it.

perhaps somone could try?
__________________
--
evilewan.

see the outdated but still usefull rec.sport.unicycling maintainance FAQ @ http://evilewan.unicyclist.com/
evilewan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-09, 05:53 PM   #3
harper
768 - It's in your DNA
 
harper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Age: 60
Posts: 8,556
Quote:
Originally posted by evilewan
the Yunimbus ii frame takes 40mm od bearings, and you can get these for the profile too,

the specs page for the summit says 41mm od beraings and i suspect that the 1mm diference shouldn't be a problem.

i seem to remember hearing that tiawanese frames are designed for 42mm bearings anyway.
so i'd say definatly probably
A 41mm OD bearing is PROBABLY an SAE 1-5/8 OD bearing. I have not heard of 42mm OD bearings. A machined bearing holder for a 40mm bearing certainly will not accommodate a 1-5/8 OD bearing. The SAE 1-5/8 OD bearings are also about 0.75mm wider than the metric 40m OD types. The main cap clamps are much more sloppy and MAY do the job but I would hesitate trying it. Shimming a smaller bearing to fit a larger holder might be OK. The other way around is not advisable even if it is possible.
__________________
-Greg Harper

Destroying the climate by shutting down nuclear power plants, one by one, since 1979.

JC is the only main man. There can be no other.

"A fool on a unicycle is redundant" - J.D. Miller
harper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-09, 06:15 PM   #4
john_childs
Guinness Mojo
 
john_childs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Posts: 12,420
Quote:
Originally posted by harper


A 41mm OD bearing is PROBABLY an SAE 1-5/8 OD bearing. I have not heard of 42mm OD bearings. A machined bearing holder for a 40mm bearing certainly will not accommodate a 1-5/8 OD bearing. The SAE 1-5/8 OD bearings are also about 0.75mm wider than the metric 40m OD types. The main cap clamps are much more sloppy and MAY do the job but I would hesitate trying it. Shimming a smaller bearing to fit a larger holder might be OK. The other way around is not advisable even if it is possible.
For the Profile hub you can get either 40 mm OD bearings or 1-5/8" OD bearings. If you need 40 mm bearings to fit the Yuni frame then buy a pair of 40 mm bearings for it. The best people to ask would be unicycle.com because they know what bearings come on the Summit and what 40 mm bearings would fit as a replacement. New generic bearings are $8 each at unicycle.com and may be less or may be more at a local bearing distributor.
__________________
john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
My Gallery :: Unicycling Bookmark List :: World Clock
john_childs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-10, 01:11 AM   #5
m_extreme_uni
Registered User
 
m_extreme_uni's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Age: 25
Posts: 558
hmmm
Summit = 300$
KH = 400$
Onza = 389$
Yuni frame = 40$

and the KH frame is really nice (plus a sweet seat) and the onza frame is *NICER* than the YUni frame ( i suspect lighter too) since it's made out of better meterial.

so, summit + Yuni frame =340$

isn't this kinda getting away from the whole issue of saving money by getting the Summit? and were not even talking about the nice paint jobs you can get the YUni frame with (more money)

correct me if i'm wrong on any of these things.

if i were you, and you want to use that saddle of yours, i'd get the onza.

just trying to help

-Ryan
__________________
"Yeah, Gravity is bad" Leo Kottke
m_extreme_uni is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-10, 07:22 AM   #6
teachndad
ONE for the...Off Road
 
teachndad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: West San Fernando Valley, Southern California
Posts: 1,076
Arrrrgh, I hate buying a new unicycle...

I started out thinking I would just get the United trials Uni with
MOnty cranks. But then I thought for a 30 or 40 more bucks I could try this or that model.... but then I thought for 30 or 40 more bucks I could try this or that model... but then...

there is certainly a lot of variety. I should be thankful for that.

I think I'll step back a little.

Excellent advice from all,

Thanks!
__________________
Rod Wylie
teachndad is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-10, 08:35 AM   #7
john_childs
Guinness Mojo
 
john_childs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Portland, Oregon USA
Posts: 12,420
Quote:
Originally posted by teachndad
Arrrrgh, I hate buying a new unicycle...
Mmmm... I like buying new unicycles.
__________________
john_childs (att) hotmail (dott) com
Team Never Wash Your Muni
My Gallery :: Unicycling Bookmark List :: World Clock
john_childs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-10, 10:09 AM   #8
andrew_carter
Back into muni!
 
andrew_carter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Age: 27
Posts: 5,242
Quote:
___________________
-Greg Harper
"I really like the look of that gusset." -Andrew Carter
Wow, I've been quoted! What an honour. Thanks Greg
.

Andrew
andrew_carter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2002-12-10, 12:21 PM   #9
johnhimsworth
Registered User
 
johnhimsworth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Nottingham
Age: 28
Posts: 547
Been there, done that...

Quote:
But then I thought for a 30 or 40 more bucks I could try this or that model.... but then I thought for 30 or 40 more bucks I could try this or that model... but then...
Yup, sounds familiar. Wheel replacement for cost of postage -> £90 in one simple afternoon. But remember, you're only really spending money a bit at a time, so its not that bad. It saves having to get costly upgrades later.

That's my excuse at least.

John
johnhimsworth is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
frame, replace, summit, yuni


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2001-2005 Gilby
Page generated in 0.10864 seconds with 9 queries