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Old 2015-09-23, 11:11 PM   #1
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Arrow New, improved NightFox!

For those who ay not now, the Nightfox has been updated with a new frame, which repositions the saddle more forward to eliminate leg rubbing on the frame. Thought I'd take it out for a Muni sesh so I swapped the long handle with the shortened KH T handle, and it looks great!

Footage includes a BAD fall (but not while riding!) with injury report. (was almost impaled on sharp tree branch sticking out of the ground like a stake!) Plus a cool new trick I learned, seen at the end. Was scary doing it because of the risk of injury, and I've sure had my share of late!

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Old 2015-09-23, 11:23 PM   #2
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Great video, Terry. Very nice camera work as well as some fine unicycling.
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Old 2015-09-24, 03:50 AM   #3
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Old 2015-09-24, 02:18 PM   #4
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The frame of the nightfox looks realy nice, but i still waiting for a bigger wheel(44" would be perfect)
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Old 2015-09-24, 02:31 PM   #5
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The frame of the nightfox looks realy nice, but i still waiting for a bigger wheel(44" would be perfect)
Geared 29" is that effective size. The night fox is meant for riders who can barely ride a 36 though. You can also try smaller cranks for more speed.
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Old 2015-09-24, 04:39 PM   #6
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Maybe it's because I've never had an issue with the original, but I vastly prefer the older design purely due to aesthetics. The old design was centered and symmetrical, while this one looks... hunchbacked.
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Old 2015-09-24, 06:40 PM   #7
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All right I'll buy one

I've been going back and forth about picking up the Nightfox as my first big wheel uni for a while now. You just gave me another excuse to grab one. Order is in- and Unicycle.com just shipped it out! Cheers to you MrGeezer for the excuses and inspiration that we all often need.
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Old 2015-09-25, 02:26 PM   #8
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Geared 29" is that effective size. The night fox is meant for riders who can barely ride a 36 though. You can also try smaller cranks for more speed.
I have tried a geared 29", and i dont like the feeling, specialy if it gets up or downhill. A bigger Wheel rides much smoother. I tried shorter cranks too. But with them you loose more control as you get more speed.
A big wheel unicycle is the best road machine for me.
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Old 2015-09-25, 05:15 PM   #9
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sorry for the off-topicness

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I have tried a geared 29", and i dont like the feeling, specialy if it gets up or downhill. A bigger Wheel rides much smoother. I tried shorter cranks too. But with them you loose more control as you get more speed.
A big wheel unicycle is the best road machine for me.
you can always gear up a 36 too

You always lose control as your gear ratio goes up, same thing on a geared 36 with 150s. I have about as much control as 100's ungeared... which makes sense.

with a large wheel like a 44, it makes mounting and getting started harder as well. Though I agree, I would love to see larger wheel sizes out there, and would REALLY love a 1.5" wide 36er tire/rim combo.

You're much more likely to see a 32" size come out than a 44 unfortunately. (A 29+ wheel is basically a 32 already, something like 31.5)
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Old 2015-10-18, 04:31 PM   #10
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Physics

Terry said in his utube comment that the new sear design feels normal and distributes weight well. I believe him.

Yet, I can't help but have the lurking physicist inside me (the dumb one, usually kept locked in a box) questioning the design.

On a traditional uni, if one stands it up and let's go, it will fall roughly 50-50 front or back. This new frame will fall 100% of the time backwards. The moment--even if small--is clearly toward the back. I think this would be a big factor in climbing, when even a traditional seat is "trying" to fall out from behind a rider--wouldn't the newly designed seat distinctly want to fall back/lean back on a climb? Sure, handlebars etc help compensate, but still, the physics seem off/odd to me (particularly as the seat is non-adjustable for tilt/angle, taking another way to compensate right out of the equation altogether).

Thoughts? Thanks. Steve.
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Old 2015-10-18, 06:29 PM   #11
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Weight balance really isn't that big of a deal, especially if you are holding on to a handle or the seat. To adjust saddle angle you can always add washers under the front or back attachment points.

I have an old frame with the centered legs and would gladly trade with anyone with the new frame that wants a more "balanced" frame (only ridden a few times and never dropped.)
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Old 2018-09-14, 10:43 AM   #12
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I know, old thread.
My question is, can a Nightfox frame be swapped in for a KH 36, or do they work with different hub widths? My inseam isn’t long enough for the KH 36 frame.
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I know, old thread.
My question is, can a Nightfox frame be swapped in for a KH 36, or do they work with different hub widths? My inseam isn’t long enough for the KH 36 frame.
Different hub widths. Nightfox is 125mm bearing pitch, KH is 100mm.
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Old 2018-09-15, 07:01 AM   #14
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Different hub widths. Nightfox is 125mm bearing pitch, KH is 100mm.
Thanks @lightbulbjim.
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