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Old 2005-06-13, 11:09 PM   #1
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Question Now for the 29" tire choice

There was a comparison done on several 29" tires (Thread below started by U-Turn):

http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/sho...hlight=29+tire


How did the individual tires rate on Roadways...anyone Know?

I have now ordered a new 29" and have a day or two to confirm my tire choice.

The Schwalbe Big Apple (700c x 2.35) concerns me since it reacts strongly to road crown - which I have here on local streets. I don't necessarily want to "Get Used" to a challenging tire if there are better options,

The Nano Raptor is mainly a light trail tire. I know it has it's drawback on hard surfaces if pressure isn't right. But, that aside, anyone using one of these on the street?

Also, any of the riders from U-Turn's study want to chime in?



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Old 2005-06-13, 11:25 PM   #2
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Actually the study is still under way, and the riders have committed to not comment until all the riders have finished and I have had time to develop a summary from their responses. This approach gives all riders equal weight and incentive to finish.

If you are considering a Nanoraptor, it is not designed as a road tire and there have been some safety issues which are still unresolved. Please see http://www.livewireunicycles.com/Tec...%20Problem.htm for more details. There are apparently some configurations which do not seat well on the rim. I have asked for data on some of these blowouts, but some of the persons involved have not yet responded to my emails.

The Schwalbe 700 x 2.0 is very good with crowned roads. I ride one almost every day on heavily crowned roads.
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Old 2005-06-13, 11:34 PM   #3
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U-Turn wrote:
"The Schwalbe 700 x 2.0 is very good with crowned roads. I ride one almost every day on heavily crowned roads."

I take it your referring to the Big Apple?

Wouldn't the 2.35 (also big Apple) be as good ?
I forgot to mention we have a lot of potholes and road cracks also.
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Old 2005-06-13, 11:44 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by roadkill
U-Turn wrote:
"The Schwalbe 700 x 2.0 is very good with crowned roads. I ride one almost every day on heavily crowned roads."

I take it your refering to the Big Apple?

Wouldn't the 2.35 (also big Apple) be as good ?
I forgot to mention we have a lot of potholes and road cracks also.
Yes, sorry I meant the Big Apple in both cases.

Well the 2.3 is, IMHO, a great tire for unicycling. There are few of them, and this is one of them. It handles bumps well, turns like a dream (more smoothly than any other tire, I think), has a mini-Cokerish feel, but still climbs nicely. It reacts to crowns better than most, including the Coker tire, but one does have to fight it some.

The 2.0 does not turn real well and has no mini-Cokerish feel. However, it climbs extremely well, is light and responsive, and has plenty of padding for bumps and things. And it absolutely ignores road crown, in my experience. I would say this tire is as "great" as the 2.0, but for specialty road use (lots of hills, crowned roads).

Their cross-sectional profiles are similar, but the internal construction apparently does not scale in a way that their performance is similar.

If you are riding around town, doing lots of turns, get the 2.3. If you are doing distance and climbing lots of hills, get the 2.0.
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Old 2005-06-13, 11:49 PM   #5
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" If you are riding around town, doing lots of turns, get the 2.3. If you are doing distance and climbing lots of hills, get the 2.0 "

Yes, lots of turns...distance, and plenty of hills.
Ah, Man...now I'll have to get them both !
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Old 2005-06-14, 12:14 AM   #6
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I think the Big Apple 29x2.35" is better than the NanoRaptor in all aspects of road riding, including on crowned roads.
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Old 2005-06-14, 12:43 AM   #7
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Re: Now for the 29" tire choice

U-turn and Roadkill-- I'm really looking forward to learning the
results of the 29er tire study. Personally, I prefer the the 2.1
Nanoraptor (NR) for general purpose riding on all surfaces. Granted,
the Nanoraptor is not as Cokerishly smooth as the 2.35 Schwalbe Big
Apple (BA), but I like the performance of the NR (over the BA) on
crowned, sloped, or slanted surfaces. Most of the residential roads
and bike paths in my area are crowned or banked. I find that it's a
much more of a struggle for me to control the BA on these surfaces,
particularly on banked, twisty bike paths. This is not a problem with
the NR. I love the feel of the BA, but the NR gives me much less
anxiety. --carl (Grand Forks, North Dakota)

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Old 2005-06-14, 01:03 AM   #8
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Thanks Carl.


That's:

2 for the "Big Apple"

1 for the Nanoraptor



Who else wants to chime-in on these or other 28"/29" Road tires.




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Old 2005-06-14, 03:05 AM   #9
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lucretius40@hotmail.com Wrote:
" U-turn and Roadkill-- I'm really looking forward to learning the results of the 29er tire study."

Yea, It would be nice to know the pros and cons of each. I just wish they would hurry it up a bit...
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Old 2005-06-14, 03:26 AM   #10
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The WTB ExiWolf 2.3 is an oustnding tire for both road and oofroad, It corners well and has little noticable crown following tendency. Corners much better then the nanoraptoer.
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Old 2005-06-14, 03:30 AM   #11
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I've never noticed any problem with the Big Apple 2.35 on crowned roads - most of the rural roads I ride are crowned.

The Big Apple is considerably smoother than the Nanoraptor I was riding before. It soaks up bumps better, turns really well, and doesn't feel as twitchy on the road as the Nanoraptor.

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Old 2005-06-14, 04:01 AM   #12
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29" tire for mainly road and light trail usage


3 for the "Big Apple"

1 for the Nanoraptor

1 for the WTB ExiWolf 2.3 (Which I haven't looked into yet...thanks)




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Old 2005-06-14, 04:24 AM   #13
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Quote:
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29" tire for mainly road and light trail usage
Actually your original request was for "on the street". I'd only use the BA on light, hard surfaced paths with few or no obstructions. It likes a higher pressure which is not conducive to riding rougher trails.
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Old 2005-06-14, 04:46 AM   #14
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"'Actually your original request was for "on the street". "

Oh...was that me?
Your right and road use is my intention. But I take a few light trails every now and then. I also wanted to open-up the discussion a little.
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Old 2005-06-14, 07:13 AM   #15
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The Nanos are a great all round tyre- it works fine on the road, whereas something more aggressive will probably get all the knobs rubbed off in a couple of rides. Off road the Nanos work fine too.

On our Queen Charlotte Ride three of the four unicyclists were on Nanos, which hooked up well on the clay singletrack. It was a little slippery in the mud, not quite as good as the Motoraptor I was using. But then the Motos are really only an off-road tyre.

I haven't tried the Big Apple, but from what I've heard it works well as a road only tyre.
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