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Old 2016-01-18, 04:46 PM   #61
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Thanks!!

Created an account just to post this: This thread has revolutionized my unicycling! I'm coming back from a decade hiatus, and before reading this thread I was trying a hands-off-the-wheel start that I used in my 20s. I could stick it maybe 30% of the time, but it's still frustrating when the family is walking farther and farther away down the path and I'm still trying to get up.

After learning the hand on wheel method, I can get up 95% of the time!

I've figured out that a little fudge factor is good, so the standing pedal is toward me around the 4 o'clock position. That way I have enough juice to pedal forward as soon as my other foot hits the opposite pedal.

Thanks a million!
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Old 2016-01-18, 05:44 PM   #62
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Welcome to the forum, sandworm. I used the tire-grab extensively on my beginner-24" unicycle. To sum up what I liked about it:
  • Pedals can be put in the best possible position to ride-away.
  • The TG mount happens in slow motion, compared to other mounts; more time is always good.
  • It's easier to get the second foot placed correctly on the second pedal.
  • The physics of the mount is simpler, because the body and the unicycle are coupled, and there is no initial motion in the pedals.
  • Starting near the 9/3 position promotes keeping the seat higher (because you're taller in the 9/3 position and able to clear a taller seat).
When you're not busy catching up with your family, keep practicing other mounts, as well. They will come with time. Keep riding!
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Old 2016-01-18, 06:28 PM   #63
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On smaller wheels - no one mentions using the brake to free mount instead of a tyre grab.
Is this possible?
Or is the centre of gravity is completely wrong?

I did imagine that the brake would simulate a kerb mount.
Also - a rolling mount with a quick jab of the brake should make things interesting, and provide a significant amount of forward / upward motion.

The timing of the brake release would be critical if it worked.
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Old 2016-01-18, 07:08 PM   #64
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no one mentions using the brake to free mount instead of a tyre grab.
By all means, learn this method. But, the biggest challenge of using the brake to mount, in my experience, is having to keep your balance after releasing the brake. Also, if the hand slips off the brake, for any reason, that could result in an ugly UPD.
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Old 2016-01-18, 09:28 PM   #65
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Thanks - I thought there must be a good reason not to give it a try.

I will try the tyre grab on my 24"club freestyle tomorrow.
The 20" is just about small enough to jump up onto with a gentle back slope. So I am nearly there.
The 24" is way too high for me, and needs a solid kerb to guarantee success.
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Old 2016-01-18, 10:21 PM   #66
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The grab mount has been the only one I had been using the first 5 years on 24 and 26", the down side is that it prevented me from learning regular free mount since it was easier and more stable to grab the tire and go.

Once I put a Q-handle on my 26er, then it was impossible to grab the tyre.
So after 5 years of unicycling I had to learn to free mount for the first time and this was not easy in the first place.

Grab mount is great when you don't have any long handle, but it's a bad habit that can be hard to loose when you only use this technique.
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Old 2016-01-28, 02:36 PM   #67
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I tried the OP method and have had the best luck with it. I'm totally new to unicycling and every tip helps me. One thing that seemed to work for me is to do the OP method but lean the uni a little to one side. I lean towards the grounded foot. This seems to give me a little extra time to get positioned. I'm sure when I get the skill to free mount with consistency it will change but that's what I had the most luck with so far. Thanks to the OP for posting his video it was very helpful.
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Old 2016-02-11, 06:48 AM   #68
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Talking Success!!

I am so grateful for this thread! I've been learning on a Club 24" for the past month and, with the Tire Grab method, I bagged my first free mount tonight.

I like the extra time it gives me and how the pedals can be set to go. I also like how, now that I've done it a handful of times, I have a feel for how to transition away from the TG.

I'm only a month and about 15 miles in, but this is the most fun, and the best exercise, that I've had in a long time. Thank you again for the thread, and thanks to all of you for this wonderful forum.
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Old 2016-02-11, 02:30 PM   #69
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Welcome to the forum, Geolojas! Glad to hear the TG mount is working. Over time, you may start placing more weight in the seat during the TG, decreasing the grabbing force with your hand, and transitioning you into a static mount.

I agree with you: unicycling is great exercise!
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Old 2016-02-18, 07:30 AM   #70
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Double-grip method

Thanks for the welcome ElpuebloUNIdo!

I'm having a blast. This mount, and unicycling in general, is so new for me that it's different every time I ride. Yesterday I was having a lot of success by keeping a tight grip on the saddle horn with my left hand while gripping the tire with my right. This allowed me to keep the seat positioned tight where I wanted with minimal post-mount slippage.
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Old 2016-03-23, 09:20 PM   #71
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Free mounting

Hi guys from West Vancouver B.C. Canada...just wanted to add a few things that I do when freemounting. First off I am by no means an accomplished unicyclist...I've been riding them for about a year and a half. I was however a bicycle courier for 15 years in the city of van and an avid hard core mountain biker on the north shore mountains for 10 plus years. I was able to ride a 24" uni after 4 days and freemounting it pretty constistently within a week. I just received a KH 36er as a loaner indefinitely the other day and managed to freemount it and catch and return a Frisbee on a grass field within about an hour. One thing I did that really helped me on pavement was to practice on the grass a lot. It removes any fears of hard falls and also offers more tire resistance so that when to transition to pavement everything seems easier. I also Always switch from right to left feet when freemounting. It keeps your body more symmetrical while riding and also makes your strong side even stronger while building more muscle diversity on your weak side. The more options you have and develop will only help you. Now I'm only 5' 3.5" so a standard freemount on a 36er is a mere pipe dream for me. I struggled briefly with the static mount and the rolling mount but can now do both with relative constistency. Good luck guys and gals! Jonny
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Old 2016-04-14, 05:11 PM   #72
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From Tire Grab to Static Mount

ElpuebloUNIdo, you were exactly right. I've been using the tire grab mount very successfully with both feet on my 24" uni. In the process of using that, I began to feel how I could stabilize the wheel between the light force on the pedal and weight on the seat. I started playing with how lightly i could grip the tire and still mount.

Then I saw this tutorial posted by UniMyra (Thank You!):
https://youtu.be/yqWtEBgG300

Everything clicked. I can now rely on my (hands-free) static mount in a variety of conditions, and in retrospect, this is one more reason to love the tire grab mount: it leads directly to a static mount. Having now done both, they feel very similar.

Now I want to get to where I can do it in super-slow motion like UniMyra!

Thanks everyone!
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Old 2017-01-30, 06:01 AM   #73
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I am 57 and just last month bought my first uni. After the required 15 hours I could "ride" and dismount, but could not freemount. I had tried and tried but could not EVER get it. Searching the internet, I found a video showing a slightly different method which worked on the second try, 7 out of the next 10 tries, and after practicing, will work every time. It is sooooo easy, I dont know why it is never posted anywhere. Just search on "Megan Rouch Expert Village". She has several videos on unicycle operation, but the "mounting" and "turning" videos show very clearly the very very easy mount. It is based on the method where you are not to put any weight down on your right (dominant) pedal. You do NOT need to lower the seat, you do NOT need a curb, you do not need to put a rock behind the wheel, you do not need to be going downhill, you do not need any of those. AND you are allowed to put as much weight on the right pedal as you want, which actually helps to mount more easily.

This is how it works. Follow the same instructions found here and elsewhere as far as how to position your feet and get the seat in position. While positioned with your right foot on the pedal, seat positioned, left foot ready to push/hop, you simply reach up with your right hand and grab the tire to keep it from rolling. Hop up with your left foot, and while holding the tire so that it will NOT roll, put as much pressure as you want on the right pedal to help lift you up. As you gain your balance, put your left foot on its pedal, let loose of the tire, off you go. Please see the video for an extremely easy "freemount". It works every time and is VERY VERY easy, even for this 57 year old unatic.
That's a good "crutch" for learning, but even on a hand support rail? Practicing while holding on a rail you will eventually not need to use your hands.

Anyways, to share my experience(52 and it took me 70hrs to "get it") I free mount with pedals at 6 and 12 o'clock. Full weight on down foot, hop up, place 2nd foot. Rock back and go. Give this a try. Two big advantages. You are fully seated as you rotate up. Second, this gives you a good intro into idling, because you are actually 1/2 idling. keep on.
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Old 2017-01-30, 02:35 PM   #74
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Slamdance...

Is L.A. Los Angeles? Are you on the One Love unicycle email list? If so come out and ride with us!
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Old 2017-02-25, 06:06 AM   #75
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Is L.A. Los Angeles? Are you on the One Love unicycle email list? If so come out and ride with us!
Hey Pueblo. Yes, I'm in LaLaland. I will definitely try to join you guys. In the meantime, I can be found roaming down river trails on my 20" torker(until I break it and get a nimbus 24" or Hatchet,...soon).

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