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Old 2018-06-20, 06:16 PM   #91
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Thanks for all the replies. Received two pairs of cycling shorts, L and XL for testing. Couldn't make up my mind as to which one would be better so I decided to keep them both and test, as they weren't too expensive. They definitely increased comfort—today I was able to ride for 1 hour and 15 minutes. Whilst there was still some discomfort down there, it was considerably better.

My practise session today involved riding around a 800m, basically going around my block which is surrounded by a nice and wide pedestrian area. This involved wide turning which, with a bit of practice, got to the point where I could consistently make a 5m radius turn. Sharp turns still feel very sketchy, although I was able to steer around people without hurting anyone.

Riding efficiency has improved a bit, it feels less tiring now. Placing my weight on the saddle instantly allows for a more relaxed ride, thanks to the cycling shorts.

The whole thing is ridiculously addictive. After the ride I was sweating like a dog and took a shower. Then decided I was thirsty and fancied a nice watermelon so I rode my uni to the fruit shop. The shop staff were all very interested in the unicycle and asked me if I could ride it back whilst carrying the watermelon, to which I said 'probably not', but then I proved myself wrong: rode back with the watermelon in my right hand (in a carrier bag) with only one UPD!

UDC China told me this morning that the KH27.5 will be on sale next week, same price as the KH26 at the moment. That is a very good deal. It's the old model with HS33 brake mounts, I assume everything else is the same as the latest model (correct me if I'm wrong). But based on your replies the KH29 would fit my needs better. I know a one-size-fits-all unicycle doesn't exist, but neither do I want to own one of every possible wheel size because my flat is very small. 20, 27.5 (or 29), and eventually 36 should cover most riding scenarios for me. The dilemma now is 27.5 or 29. I'll ask if the 29er is also going to be on sale, in which case I'm just going to go mad.
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Old 2018-06-21, 03:19 PM   #92
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Thanks for all the replies. Received two pairs of cycling shorts, L and XL for testing.
They need to be fairly snug to hold everything in place. Shorts are fine for ordinary riding but I only really sorted it when I got bibshorts. The over the shoulder construction reliably keeps it all up out of the way. I wear cotton shorts over the lycra and use braces on them too. It is not good when you are pushing hard out of the saddle on a hill and you cannot sit down again.

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This involved wide turning which, with a bit of practice, got to the point where I could consistently make a 5m radius turn. Sharp turns still feel very sketchy, although I was able to steer around people without hurting anyone.
Focus on leaning the uni. Your body will counterlean to stay over the contact point. Avoid slowing or it can be hard to pull put of the turn. Drive into the turn. There are some points in the rotation where going into a turn works best. It is about working with the way the wheel has a tendency to wobble at certain points in the rotation when pushing hard.

Later you will lean your body into the turn as well. Ultimately there is a controlled "high side" where you get back up by turning harder.

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The whole thing is ridiculously addictive.
That is a good sign. It feels like magic for quite a while. As the riding magic wears off you will be distracted doing things that you never expected to be in your capability. Then one day you will realise you have not touched a bike in months and n+1 unis syndrome sets in. (n is the number of unis you have and n+1 is how many you need.)

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After the ride I was sweating like a dog and took a shower.
Enjoy this while you can. I actually miss the intensity now. Even though I ride big wheels up steep hills it doesn't produce that level of exertion any more partly through efficiency and partly fitness. I think it is part of why so many of us turn to muni at some point.

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rode back with the watermelon in my right hand (in a carrier bag) with only one UPD!
In the phase you are in now, it really surprising how quickly what seems impossible becomes routine. I remember a patchwork section of concrete I named "Impossible Driveway". I encountered it when my rides first reached over two kilometres from my house. Three rides later and I just rode across, rarely failing after that. I was actually quite sad when they reconstructed it a couple of years later.
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Old 2018-06-22, 02:37 AM   #93
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@OneTrackMind how long have you been riding unis?

BTW I've ended up ordering myself a KH 27.5, the deal was very good. After doing a bit of math this wheel size probably will be more manoeuvrable whilst still allowing me to travel at light jogging speed which is decent.

I'm infinitely glad I got the cheap 20er because I'm going to use it to encourage my friends to get into unicycling, by letting them try it. I've found most people are reluctant to spend money on what they consider to be a pointless toy but a great number of them are willing to have a go on my uni because there is nothing to risk other than a bit of time and a scuffs or two. A quick-release seatpost clamp could be a useful investment here.

Regarding the sweating, I look forward to not sweating—that's when unicycling becomes a practical means of transport for me.
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Old 2018-06-22, 07:29 AM   #94
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I'm infinitely glad I got the cheap 20er because I'm going to use it to encourage my friends to get into unicycling, by letting them try it,.
Yeah, selling my learner uni was definitely a mistake. Once I had replaced the seat and some other parts, it was quite ridable, and there is almost always someone I want to lend a unicycle to.

The only KH 27.5 I ever rode was some sort of muni monstrosity. It had a disk brake, some little handlebars, a tire that was at least 3" and cranks that were maybe 165 mm. Commuting on that thing would have been possible but not ideal, though it would have been very nice if your commute included a stairway.
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Old 2018-06-22, 07:47 AM   #95
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Regarding the sweating, I look forward to not sweating—that's when unicycling becomes a practical means of transport for me.
I'm not sure it'll ever happen. It's the nature of the machine, you spin fast enough to put your body in cool down mode. Most uni-commuters on this forum do it because they have a shower at work. It's like roller skating, no matter how good you are, you'll be sweating. You can end up sweating less, but it's nothing like a bike where you can actually commute at a decent pace with hardly any sweat.
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Old 2018-06-22, 06:23 PM   #96
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I'm not sure it'll ever happen. It's the nature of the machine, you spin fast enough to put your body in cool down mode. Most uni-commuters on this forum do it because they have a shower at work. It's like roller skating, no matter how good you are, you'll be sweating. You can end up sweating less, but it's nothing like a bike where you can actually commute at a decent pace with hardly any sweat.
I think that depends on your idea of a decent pace. I've been commuting daily on my 36er for a good number of years now and I've rarely had/required a shower when arriving at work. I tend to average around 11mph.
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Old 2018-06-22, 11:12 PM   #97
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I think that depends on your idea of a decent pace. I've been commuting daily on my 36er for a good number of years now and I've rarely had/required a shower when arriving at work. I tend to average around 11mph.
I agree - it also depends on how far you're going. Not that I've ever done a proper commute on a uni, but I did go into my kids' school to work after riding a mile on my uni, and that certainly changed from having an issue with being sweaty to it being a non-issue. I also regularly use my uni for transport for much longer distances than that without any problems. IME it genuinely does reach a point where it requires no more effort than walking (but you're going a lot faster). Though I can also roller skate at a similar speed without putting much effort in
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Old 2018-06-23, 08:46 AM   #98
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@OneTrackMind how long have you been riding unis?
Only about 4 & 1/2 years. Still so much to learn. Can't even idle yet.
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Old 2018-06-24, 07:53 PM   #99
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The Stadium saddle is named that because it has a stadium shaped cutout in the middle. A stadium is a two-dimensional geometric shape constructed of a rectangle with semicircles at a pair of opposite sides. Alternative names include discorectangle and obround.
Or Hippodrome. Or would that sound too circusy?

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2. ...It's not so much the padding in the shorts that helps, but the low friction. When wearing regular cotton shorts, which can get very moist, the skin is unable to move freely relative to the saddle, which results in chafing.
I like your illustrations with the sad and happy balls. I'm not going to ask what that big yellow thing is...
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The whole thing is ridiculously addictive. After the ride I was sweating like a dog and took a shower.
I was sweating like that today too, on a very early ride! Supposed to get up to 105/40.5. With much effort will come much sweat, which definitely means you sweat more as a beginner. As things get easier, you can accomplish the same riding with less effort. But if the heat and humidity go up, especially if the ride involves lots of uphill, it can be hard to avoid sweating.

Unless you're a dog. Dogs don't have pores in their skin; that's what the oversized tongue and all that panting is about.
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Old 2018-06-25, 01:02 AM   #100
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I like your illustrations with the sad and happy balls. I'm not going to ask what that big yellow thing is...
It's the mother of all balls, obviously.

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Unless you're a dog. Dogs don't have pores in their skin; that's what the oversized tongue and all that panting is about.
Never knew that, but a colleague once said "I'm sweating like a dog" and he was drenched so I put two and two together. The more you know...
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Old 2018-06-25, 01:59 AM   #101
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The KH27.5 arrived. As I said, it's the older model with rim brake mounts. The box's staples were all rusted over and the box had a definite mould scent, but I didn't make much of it as it's just a box.

I unboxed the uni and it had a few thin mould patches, particularly under the saddle, and an overall mould scent. I wiped it down and left it in the sun for a couple of hours to get rid of the smell. Not too worried about this.

However, I noticed several corrosion (pitting) patches in three places: the rim side walls, the cranks, and the brake caliper. I've previously seen this happen to aluminium exposed to humidity. Judging by the rusty staples and the mould smell, plus the fact that it's an older model, I reckon this uni has been in UDC China's warehouse for quite a while, possibly years, and that they have some sort of moisture control issues. Essentially, when I order this puppy I thought I was getting the Harley Davidson of unicycles, lovely shiny brand-new perfection, and in fairness I can tell the unicycle was in pristine condition right off the production line (basically it has no scratches or scuffs), but then... the pitting. A scratch inflicted by me, the owner, is a badge of honour; pitting is a pebble in the shoe, a nerve-grating annoyance that won't go away. Do you guys think I could ask UDC to sort this out or am I being too picky?

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Old 2018-06-25, 05:33 AM   #102
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In the US, on the whole they were pretty reasonable with me back in 2014 when I had to contact them regarding some problems with a new unicycle. They might have tightened their belts since then, and they also might behave differently in China, but giving them a call couldn't hurt.
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Old 2018-06-25, 06:28 AM   #103
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The pitting on the rim is pretty deep, and there was a whitish patch around the pit. I used a cloth and Autosol to try to sort it out but white rough patches can still be seen around the area. The whole rim was had similar patching around it although Autosol took care of most of it. What these pics show is the stuff that can't be fixed.

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IMO a top of the line uni like this should be spotless. Even my cheap trials Chinese unicycle was. I'll need to contact UDC, but I've developed a phobia to the whole RMA proccesss due to bad past experiences with uncooperative retailers whose idea of quality and mine differ.

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Old 2018-06-25, 01:38 PM   #104
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It looks like UDC China's warehouse is near the ocean, or maybe in an area infested with worms that eat aluminum!

Is there any pitting on the brake disk or brake shoes? If so, it might cause a problem that would be more than cosmetic.

Oh well, give them a call. As I said, with me they were pretty reasonable, and the unicycle in question was one of their cheaper trials unicycles, a composite of parts they were trying to get rid of, rather than a giant hog.
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Old 2018-06-25, 03:34 PM   #105
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I'd email them with pictures to get some money back... I agree, it should be in better shape for that price point (and they usually are). But none of the damage is functional, or more than a few months of riding would do, so sending it back would be a bit silly I think. I haven't dealt with UDC China, but so far, every unicycle dealer I have dealt with was very reasonable.
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