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Old 2018-10-17, 07:52 AM   #46
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In order to do this, you need to be able to pause while riding, grip the wheel with your hand, and move the offending foot into a better position. Honestly, being able to stop and grip the wheel is the most critical skill I've learned aside from simply riding forward. It's the natural follow up to free-mounting, which is why I would encourage learning that as well. Stopping and gripping is good for fixing foot position, hopping down drops and up stairs, and turning on a dime if you aren't comfortable swinging your hips to do that. It's really worth your time.
So gripping the wheel is like a wheelgrab mount on the uni? Or maybe easier because you can bend your knees. I haven't been able to wheel-grab-mount on the uni and just use a static mount on the 36. It always feels like falling forward on the uni. From the very few UW vidz on youtube, I did see for hopping on or off something it looked "pretty easy" to grab the wheel.
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Old 2018-10-20, 09:43 PM   #47
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Just wondering, what is the distance an experienced UW rider can reasonably cover? Is it doable to ride 10km in one go? I do not care about occasional UPDs, just want to know if (with experience) it becomes a viable locomotion device rather than a funny backyard contraption. Right now I can do 100m tops before my legs start to hurt.

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Old 2018-10-21, 09:59 AM   #48
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Just wondering, what is the distance an experienced UW rider can reasonably cover? Is it doable to ride 10km in one go? I do not care about occasional UPDs, just want to know if (with experience) it becomes a viable locomotion device rather than a funny backyard contraption. Right now I can do 100m tops before my legs start to hurt.
I thought the ultimate wheel could be another form of jogging, but more like rolling-jogging or something. Based on what you say it seems it is a lot harder than jogging. There are some youtube vidz where they take the UW into the forest and turn it into a muni kind of toy. I also noticed that those riders can keep their upper body very still while only moving there legs. That must also be tiring. I kinda do that with uni when riding on rougher terrain or a few pedals when just shifting the seat under me.
I've been half thinking of trying to use the unicycle as an ultimate wheel until I can buy it, but I reckon because the UW brings the balance closer to the center, it might not really be worth investing time in.
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Old 2018-10-21, 10:08 AM   #49
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Well it is definitely far from jogging and is very exhausting. I guess it also depends on the wheel diameter. Never tried it, but a 36" UW ought to be less tiring on flat surfaces and should allow to go much further than 20".

Right now I own 20" and 24" ; riding with those is not much faster than just walking. I see 28" readily available at unicycle.com. For those who tried it, does it really make any difference with 24? If I want to go for few kilometers with my kids, should I build a 36"? Or better yet, are those available somewhere?
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Old 2018-10-21, 03:37 PM   #50
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Just wondering, what is the distance an experienced UW rider can reasonably cover? Is it doable to ride 10km in one go? I do not care about occasional UPDs, just want to know if (with experience) it becomes a viable locomotion device rather than a funny backyard contraption. Right now I can do 100m tops before my legs start to hurt.
In reading past threads it seems that expecting to ride a UW 10km in one go would take a super human effort. It is just not an efficient method of travel and any hills make it worse. Even experienced unicyclist report there their legs giving out within a km. It may be reasonable to say the UW is maybe 20 to 40 times less efficient than a unicycle in covering distances. If you can cover could cover 200 to 400km in one go on a uni maybe you could expect to cover 10km on a UW.

One past thread at: http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39700
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Old 2018-10-21, 05:44 PM   #51
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In reading past threads it seems that expecting to ride a UW 10km in one go would take a super human effort. It is just not an efficient method of travel and any hills make it worse. Even experienced unicyclist report there their legs giving out within a km. It may be reasonable to say the UW is maybe 20 to 40 times less efficient than a unicycle in covering distances. If you can cover could cover 200 to 400km in one go on a uni maybe you could expect to cover 10km on a UW.

One past thread at: http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39700
I suspect very few people ride long distances on UW and that most — if ridden at all — are used for "tricks and skills" in a small area.

I managed a lap of the water sports centre rowing lake (roughly 5 km route) but the longest single stage was about 500 metres and by the end I was riding 5 – 10 metres at a time and was exhausted.
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Old 2018-10-21, 07:37 PM   #52
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I managed a lap of the water sports centre rowing lake (roughly 5 km route) but the longest single stage was about 500 metres and by the end I was riding 5 – 10 metres at a time and was exhausted.
Yes, but if I recall correctly, you ride a 24" ; from what I can judge, 20" behaves really differently compared to 24". I guess that 36" should be quite another beast, I conjecture that it is much less tiring on a flat paved road.

Have you tried 28"?
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Old 2018-10-22, 08:03 AM   #53
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Yes, but if I recall correctly, you ride a 24" ; from what I can judge, 20" behaves really differently compared to 24". I guess that 36" should be quite another beast, I conjecture that it is much less tiring on a flat paved road.

Have you tried 28"?
I don't think you can buy the 36" UW from the unicycle shop, only make it yourself and from what I read the bigger uni makes it easier to learn. I think the only way to get my answer about how realistic it is to make a longer ride, is by starting to ride. One more month and I can justify the buy to my wife.

Another question: is the distance between the pedals the same on a 28" and the 24" or 20"? I reckon with a bigger "crank-length" (just the length between pedal and center of the wheel) you would have to step up higher and make you walk more like a duck. That will take more energy.
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Old 2018-10-23, 05:53 AM   #54
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Yes, but if I recall correctly, you ride a 24" ; from what I can judge, 20" behaves really differently compared to 24". I guess that 36" should be quite another beast, I conjecture that it is much less tiring on a flat paved road.

Have you tried 28"?
Yes, I ride a 24. My point was not "look how far I rode" but "riding long distance on a UW is very difficult indeed." I can ride a unicycle for 2 hours without a dismount, but I'm doing well to achieve 3 minutes on a UW.

I'm sure it would be even harder on a 20.

No, I haven't tried other sizes of UW.
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Old 2018-10-26, 03:04 AM   #55
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The only unicycle-like product I own is my 28" ultimate wheel right now. I purchased it specifically because I wanted the most travel viable ultimate wheel that didn't require welding or internet digging to find, and it does basically fit the bill. As long as I don't get ahead of myself and start rushing, my limiting factor is still technique over fatigue, despite have made 100 meters myself several times now.

As for travel speed, I've got a large number of skateboarders, joggers, and bicyclists on my campus, and I've found that the 28" can (at least as long as I don't make a mistake) match jogging and skateboarding relatively easily. It's still quite a bit slower than a bicyclist, but that's to be expected without a ridiculously big wheel or a very young bicyclist.
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Old 2018-10-26, 05:51 AM   #56
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It's still quite a bit slower than a bicyclist, but that's to be expected without a ridiculously big wheel or a very young bicyclist.
I don't think matching bicycle speeds is a reason to start unicycling or riding the ultimate wheel. I know Im slower than a bike with my 29", but I love the feel of it and it easily fits in the car, so I can explore different parts of the world more easily. An ultimate wheel should be faster than walking which for me is good enough.
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Old 2018-10-26, 12:29 PM   #57
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Well I couldn't wait any longer, so I just ordered the 28" UW on Eindradladen.com (municycle.com) Pity it is grey. I should have it painted purple or something cool. Maybe after I can ride it or I will have to paint it again. Though my family question my buy saying that 9 uni's should be enough, they will still chip in so I can get it for my bday in 3 weeks.
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Old 2018-11-01, 11:37 AM   #58
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btw, just a tip. The wheel comes with two white pedals, quite hard to determine right/left side. I swapped one orange pedal with my regular unicyle. Now I know that the white pedal should go to the bottom right for a start
My UW came yesterday. It has a big L and R on either side. Naturally a coloured pedal is easier to see.
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Old 2018-11-01, 01:34 PM   #59
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Hagreu,

What tire pressure do you ride with? Should it be harder than for a unicycle, given that I ride with 30-35 PSI on all my unis
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Old 2018-11-01, 09:48 PM   #60
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Setonix, dunno about pounds per square inch, I ride 3 bars for the UW and road unis.
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