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Old 2019-12-02, 03:17 AM   #31
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Old 2019-12-02, 03:27 AM   #32
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Old 2019-12-02, 06:10 AM   #33
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I'd hesitate to declare a trend from 4 datapoints, but it also wouldn't surprise me to find a connection between uni and IT.
More accurately I'd describe it as a connection between uni and nerds. Lots of nerdy professions outside of IT. But plenty in IT as well; I know unicyclists who have worked at IBM, Apple, Google, Intuit, Intel and others. But also there are nuclear physicists, a nuclear power plant decommissioning expert, scientists, mathematicians, and many other highly specialized people. I think part of the attraction to unicycling is trying something that seems impossible (as well as the stubbornness to not give up).

As for me, I currently work in an IT-ish position, with no formal training but lots of experience. Mostly these days I'm concerned with our fleet of over 400 mobile devices, and taking care of our building and vehicles. Something is always breaking.

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Not just a guy who rode a unicycle, he was also connected to other unicyclists. As possibly one of the most famous uni-nerds (at least among the uni-IT crowd), Claude Shannon got connected to Bill Jenack, who I call the Father of Modern Unicycling (founder of the Unicycling Society of America), probably in the 1960s. BTW, Bill Jenack was the Director of Analog Computing at Fairchild Republic, a company that made military aircraft like the A-10. Bill made Dr. Shannon one of the founding members of the Unicycling Society of America. His name is listed, without fanfare, in every issue of the old USA Newsletter, starting from 1974.
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I guess IT people like being on the Internet and are on forums in their spare time when they aren’t unicycling?
Probably true, for the uni-IT crowd. And it's a more concentrated group these days, as other forms of social media have lured away lots of younger and/or less nerdly unicyclists to Facebook and elsewhere, as Song mentioned. There, they discuss many of the same topics over and over, not too differently than it worked here, but with less ability to search and find topics that had already been covered.
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...I also play volleyball, and Volleyballers here tend to have well paying jobs too....
My great neice (Emily Wade) is a freshman at the University of Hawaii, Hilo and her team has just advanced to the NCAA Women's Volleyball post season/playoffs. She's 6'-3" (1.9m) tall and a "killer" at the net. We're flying down to San Bernardino on Wednesday to watch her first two matches! She doesn't have a well paying job, but hopes to in the future. (also hasn't shown an interest in unicycling)
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Unicycle volleyball? It actually exists, apparently,
https://julianworkerwriter.blog/2018...cion-paraguay/
Apparently not, if you read the thing. I was curious to find out how that would work, though more skeptical, since volleyball wouldn't really "work" with unicycles. You can't do a "dig" for instance. Also I probably would have heard of a "league" of unicycle volleyball players, and especially any kind of world championship! Basketball and hockey, however, work really well with unicycles.
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In the age of Facebook, this forum appears to have become mostly the domain of middle-aged men, many of whom do indeed work in IT, mathematics or engineering, and some of whom don’t use Facebook because they are either too old or too frightened of the security forces with which it partners.
So true, though we always had our share of IT, math and engineering types here. It's just that we had a lot more of everyone else. They left us for shinier new things!
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In Japan, from what various people have told me, unicycling is almost exclusively the domain of schoolgirls, and never indulged in by women, men or even boys.
Yes and no. Both boys and girls learn to ride at elementary school recess as the majority of Japan's elementary schools have a fleet of unicycles, courtesy of the Japan Lottery Co. and clever lobbying by the Japan Unicycling Association over the years. I get the impression it's more popular with girls now, but we still see plenty of both sexes at Unicon, and plenty of (top) riders well above elementary school age. However, that being said, I think the vast majority of unicyclists we see from Japan learned in their schools, so there are few to none beyond a certain age, possibly mid-40s or so. But they do consistently win at Freestyle!
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...and writing science-fiction.
Anything published, and/or available in English? I am curious!
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Old 2019-12-02, 10:14 AM   #34
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Another IT person here.
Worked in quite a few different roles and fields as:
  • helpdesk
  • developer (Ada, Java, Javascript, C++)
  • test analyst
  • Windows system admin
  • database analyst (postgres, oracle)

Current role is an system configuration manager

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Old 2019-12-02, 11:49 AM   #35
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In the age of Facebook, this forum appears to have become mostly the domain of middle-aged men
Sure, Facebook groups have "stolen" a lot of people from forums (we've seen that with our main (and only) French unicycling forum and that's a shame. Maybe some people left from forums because…

1) Both the old forum engines aren't attractive anymore and don't fit the internet modern usage (I mean, try to add an image in a post here…), and because they liked the idea of grouping their center of interests on one platform: Facebook, where they have already many friends.
(That's off-topic, but one of the main issues with Facebook groups when discussing is that the information always disappears. Nothing is organized, the search engine is crap and everything is made so you type short messages.
That's why I like forums, where you can always efficiently find useful information no matter what and even things which are written and discussed many years ago.)

2) Also, I think the unicycle popularity has risen a lot in the mid-2000s in young people. They seemed to be attracted to trial/street/flat.
The popularity has, since the 2010s, decreased a lot for some reason, but older people who have their habits, sort of, kept their interest in unicycling.

I'm no expert though and I could be very wrong on both points.
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Old 2019-12-02, 12:27 PM   #36
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I used to be a symphony musician, bassoonist.
Hah! I played the bassoon for a year in eighth grade. My bassoon was property of the Indianapolis Public School system, though, and the whisper key didn't work, so the extra octave was missing from my range. Pretty discouraging, but I did give it a try.

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the majority of Japan's elementary schools have a fleet of unicycles, courtesy of the Japan Lottery Co. and clever lobbying by the Japan Unicycling Association over the years.
Yeah, I met a survivor of one of those Japanese unicycle programs once. She could do things on a unicycle that, because I don't go to conventions, I have only seen on You Tube- standing one-footed wheel walk, coasting, gliding and so on, but when she got on a 29, she had to have somebody hold her hand. She had never ridden anything but a 20 in her whole life. I don't think she had ever even seen a large unicycle before. Within a few minutes, of course she had no problem riding the 29, but it was funny to see someone with such an insane level of skill be frightened by a simple commuter uni.
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Old 2019-12-02, 02:46 PM   #37
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Yeah so to also be on the list, even though I've been a software developer since 2000, I have a degree in Forestry and Nature Conservation. I ended up behind a chainsaw cutting down trees and then decided I didn't want to do that the rest of my life. At least because I had a job, I made some money to buy my first own comp. Before that I only had an old black and white PC with Word Perfect that played Prince of Persia on and I had a collection of scientific names of birds and mammals. As I liked fiddling with computers and building levels of games, I decided to find work in programming and found a job agency that offered a month training in Visual Basic 6.0, which started the ball rolling: 7 years web development, mostly ASP and JAVA, then moved to Denmark where they needed a VBA developer for Excel macros and that quickly changed to .NET. The SQL language is one of my favourite languages. MS SQL is very strong and you can do a lot with it.

I my spare time all I did was play computer games and watch films and the only "sport" I did was going to the gym 2 times a week, but it was boring. Then I got this silly thing in my head that I either wanted to get a motorcycle license or learn to ride unicycle. When reading that anybody could ride unicycle and all it took was being persistence, I chose that.
Like Gockie said, I had a good pay and still so now I have a Danish salary in the Netherlands so over the past 5 years I spent good money on 11 unicycles ( though I sold the geared KH again )
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Old 2019-12-02, 02:54 PM   #38
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Anything published, and/or available in English? I am curious!
well yes and no: I tried to write in English many years ago and the results were ... well "unpublishable"
you can download this : https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/674097
(some stories are not worth the trouble though some are not "that"" bad )
now I am learning to perfect my style (in French) ... but since I don't describe laser sword battles or damsel in distress editors are still unwilling to read (I wrote a book and more than 40 novels -only 2 were published-)
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Old 2019-12-02, 10:47 PM   #39
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I'm an engineer at Tupperware for over a decade now
Before that I worked six years at GE Plastics and did a one year stint at Akzo Nobel as well.

I think it is the beta profile and age that keeps us on this forum.

Speaking as a forum user for some 20 years (kayaking, speedcubing, astronomy and Unicycling):
Facebook is more convenient to post photos and videos for sure.

But the knowledge that you can find (back) on the "old school forums" you'll never find on Facebook.
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Old 2019-12-03, 05:41 AM   #40
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Old 2019-12-03, 10:07 AM   #41
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Facebook is more convenient to post photos and videos for sure.

But the knowledge that you can find (back) on the "old school forums" you'll never find on Facebook.
Yes I agree. Unicyclist.com is a specialist forum. I generally only use facebook to post pictures to my friends and though I joined some uni groups, Im hardly ever in it.
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Old 2019-12-03, 03:48 PM   #42
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Another scientist here

I'm an engineering geologist; I work for the State of California on flood control. Basically, I spend a lot of time on levees.
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Nice! And with the name Gorgescrambler, do you go canyoning with your ropes?
We make rope for industry and construction, not climbing rope. Have had a passion for canyoneering and navigating deep gorges, but Muni now consumes most of my time !
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1) Both the old forum engines aren't attractive anymore and don't fit the internet modern usage (I mean, try to add an image in a post here…)
Yup, adding images is a big hassle if you're not a photo nerd. But I am one of those, so I have a little preset in Adobe Lightroom to save out any image at 800 px on the long side and compress it for decent Web use. But that means the photo has to already be in Lightroom, not on my phone, camera, etc. So yeah. You rarely see pictures I've taken in the past week!

For me the Unicyclist.com Forums are the "newfangled" version of unicycle communication, as I lived through the old Unicycling Mailing List (email), which was followed by the Usenet group rec.sport.unicycling. In those days, everybody read everything; it didn't break down into topics like the current Forums. Then Gilby came along and created this place, which originally mirrored rec.sport.unicycling, but eventually took its place. Which was a good thing, because the volume was too much for people to keep up with. Now you could choose which threads to follow and which to ignore.

I reply to some uni questions on Facebook, but not so much on the ones that have already been covered much more thoroughly here.
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2) Also, I think the unicycle popularity has risen a lot in the mid-2000s in young people. They seemed to be attracted to trial/street/flat.
The popularity has, since the 2010s, decreased a lot for some reason, but older people who have their habits, sort of, kept their interest in unicycling.
I haven't noticed the decline (except here at the Forums), but it may be more noticeable in some places than others. Where are you located? Certainly the Unicons have gotten steadily larger. When held in Europe they are so big it's hard to fit everything in for everybody, it takes almost two weeks to do it all, and you can't do the old-school Public Show because no venue would be big enough to hold everybody! Instead it has to be spread around multiple venues, with simultaneous events (you have to pick which ones to attend), like the actual Olympics.

Certainly unicycling experienced very rapid growth through the late 90s and past 2010; in part becuase of the "revolution" of being able to buy unicycles online, and the development of the unicycle market as a result of that. Also at the same time, the rise of searchable and easy-to-make online videos (YouTube and others) made it much easier to learn about, and really see what could be done on one wheel. The rise of Muni, along with Trials and Street, followed by Flat and other new disciplines, also created huge amounts of energy. Maybe we're just doing less that's new right now...
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...She could do things on a unicycle that, because I don't go to conventions, I have only seen on You Tube- standing one-footed wheel walk, coasting, gliding and so on, but when she got on a 29, she had to have somebody hold her hand. She had never ridden anything but a 20 in her whole life.
Sounds like she may have been in some sort of unicycle club; I don't think she would have learned those specialized skills during elementary school recess. But they do tend to stick to 20" wheels for indoors, and 24" on the track. Part of this may be due to the urban nature of much of Japan. It's not as easy for people to get out to a mountain bike trail, for instance, which may be why Muni has never been much of a thing there. The competition focus is primarily on Track and Freestyle, which they've been doing at very large conventions since the early 80s.

In my collection I have a uni that may have had a sad, post-elementary school story for a little Japanese girl. I bought a pink unicycle on eBay. It's cute, and it has a built-in kickstand. No kidding! Amazingly, I don't seem to have a decent picture of it (yeah, I know)! It's the pink one in the photo below. Brand is NGK, which I know nothing about. When I got this little uni, I noticed it has the gold "JUA seal of approval", which means the original owner probably lived in Japan. The unicycle came from Connecticut. I imagine a family moved to the NYC area and the daughter was a unicyclist. They brought the unicycle along so she could continue riding it in the States. Then when they got here they found out there weren't crowds of kids riding unicycles at the school, so she may have stopped using it then, in favor of doing what the other kids were doing.

Or she may have grown out of it, who knows! But now it's the weird uni-with-a-kickstand in my collection. I have occasionally used it in shows, where I will pull it out, hold it up, slowly fold out that "thing" on it, then let it drop to the bottom, where it kind of locks in place, pop it on the ground and walk away, while the audience has sat there and wondered what the hell that was all about. Nobody gets it.

One last weird fact about the weird kickstand uni: I've never ridden it. It still has the tire and tube it came with, and the tube has a Woods valve. That's the kind where you need a pump with a clip on it to hold it to the valve. I don't know anybody who has one of those. Anyway, it's little girl-sized, and the interesting thing about it is the kickstand (and the mag wheel). I probably haven't ridden the one to the left of it in the photo either; it's a Loyd uni from the 60s. Also from eBay, this one appears to have the original Leather seat that came with it. OUCH! Not recommended! If it looks like a Schwinn, it's because the Schwinns actually look like the Loyd.
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well yes and no: I tried to write in English many years ago and the results were ... well "unpublishable"
you can download this : https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/674097
(some stories are not worth the trouble though some are not "that"" bad )
now I am learning to perfect my style (in French) ... but since I don't describe laser sword battles or damsel in distress editors are still unwilling to read (I wrote a book and more than 40 novels -only 2 were published-)
Makes me think of my own first computer; a 386 processor with a teeny bit of RAM and a 130 MB hard drive. It replaced the Canon "Bubblejet" word processor I had been using to write unicycling newsletters, correspond with other unicyclists and collaborate on unicycle rulebooks. That was in 1992.
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Nothing fancy, just an engineer. Btw nice to see other people of this preofession in the thread.
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