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Old 2019-09-12, 04:51 PM   #1
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Handle saddle

Anyone riding the Mad 4 One Handle saddle? How do you like it? Pros/cons? Did you previously have comfort problems with "normal" saddles?
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Old 2019-09-12, 10:00 PM   #2
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Amazing!
I found out about the handle saddle only today and was just on my way to ask about it on the forum.

I'm that close from ordering one
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Old 2019-09-12, 10:44 PM   #3
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I build it right now!

I just rebuild my guni with the handle saddle. I did the cover by myself. Tomorrow will test it and let you know

Some pics: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2U_fHCI...=12konoqkdeso7

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Old 2019-09-12, 11:44 PM   #4
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I have it installed on my 26". I was torn on what size to buy. I bought the long, touring version because it was the same length as the combined seat/bar setup on my other muni/xc unicycles. I bought the bar without the seat. It is going to take some time to get the DYI seat-part happening to my satisfaction. My major gripe with the Mad4One seat/handle is that the entire thing is on the narrow side. I am bigger and taller than most of the riders on this forum. A bit more width would suit my more-widely-spaced sit-bones, and a somewhat wider hand-grip would give me more control. I love how light and strong the setup is.
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Old 2019-09-13, 03:38 AM   #5
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Oh, DIY peeps. Good

What kind of tape do you guys use to cover the handles?
My seat must hit the ground a thousand times a day, so the regular tape for bike handlebars won't do.
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Old 2019-09-13, 12:19 PM   #6
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It doesn't look very comfortable. Do you add the tape for comfiness?
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Old 2019-09-13, 01:29 PM   #7
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It doesn't look very comfortable. Do you add the tape for comfiness?
My goal is to limit the amount of padding in the setup, then use two pairs of padded cycling shorts. Currently I have two rubber grips (the type used on the walkers of old people), sliced lengthwise, placed around the back corners of the seat/handle (where my sit bones are), then the entire seat/handle wrapped with lacrosse tape. One of the challenges with the DYI setup is to not only get the padding correct, but to also to get the relative grip of the seat/handle where I want it. Before putting on the lacrosse tape, I put on some tennis racket wrapping tape; the grip was too much, and it interfered with me adjusting the seat forward and backward. I need to play with it more. It's on my 26", and I have mostly been riding my 24" muni and 19" trials lately. Changing setups involves some growing pains. It may take a while to find out what is superior (or not?) about the seat/handle setup.
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Old 2019-09-13, 04:31 PM   #8
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These saddles sound really interesting. I don't really like my t-bar that much, but at the same time like having it there for something a bit further out to grab and a place to put lights. These seem like a good middle-ground. Has anyone used one for road/long distance riding or are they more of a trials/muni thing right now?
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Old 2019-09-14, 03:25 AM   #9
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Has anyone used one for road/long distance riding or are they more of a trials/muni thing right now?
They are advertised as coming in three sizes. Short for trials, medium for muni, long for touring.

For anyone thinking about a bar setup, here's a one-point comparison of the KH T-bar, the Nimbus Shadow Handle and the Mad4One Saddle/Handle. I am comparing the adjustment potential of each setup. The Mad4One can only be adjusted at the interface between the handle and the seat post. That limits the range of adjustment. The Shadow handle has the same interface adjustment, but also the option of a straight or curved bar extending from the receiver. And if you're adding bar ends to the Shadow, they can be adjusted. The KH T-bar has what appears to be the most points of adjustment. The angle of the seat and the angle of the bar ends are easier to control separate from one another.

I have been a big fan of the Shadow, because of its relative stiffness over the KH setup. The first handle setup I ever used was the KH. My experience was that I couldn't tighten it enough to keep it from moving around. Also, there was more play in it. I destroyed a few seat posts using it. Even after adding the KH stiffening plate, the setup still had too much play / compliance in it. I like a responsive setup. The Mad4One is very stiff, and as I mentioned before, super lightweight. I haven't extinguished the options for setting it up. Currently, I am most satisfied with the Shadow.
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Old 2019-09-14, 04:52 AM   #10
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I have one that I got with the cushion attached. The padded part comes too short stock. I haven't modified it yet but the end of the pad is in a very uncomfortable spot as is.
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Old 2019-09-14, 10:10 AM   #11
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Phillip, did you get some kind of seat cover with it or was the foam simply covered with tape, like in the picture below (from mad4one's website)?




This one is the 'urban competition finish'.
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Old 2019-09-14, 11:55 AM   #12
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I've set the DIY padded part far back (as Mad4one site M size). I must ride with at least one hand on the saddle or I'll slide in the centered unpadded area. So I think it will train me to put a lot of weight in the front part helping me to sit more back... I don't have much time to test it, but I'm sure I'll learn how to ride with 2 hands always on the handle, with less weight in the back.

My main concern is only about chafing, but I have not really tested it

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Old 2019-09-14, 02:14 PM   #13
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Phillip, did you get some kind of seat cover with it or was the foam simply covered with tape, like in the picture below (from mad4one's website)?




This one is the 'urban competition finish'.
I got the muni finish. It looks like some sort of actual foam seat but it is just taped on to the saddle. The front is just an abrupt stop and then the handle. The foam isnt tapered down or anything so it puts a lot of pressure right behind the testicles. Sorry for the graphic language but I couldn't think of a better way to describe it.
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Old 2019-09-14, 07:25 PM   #14
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I got the muni finish. It looks like some sort of actual foam seat but it is just taped on to the saddle. The front is just an abrupt stop and then the handle. The foam isnt tapered down or anything so it puts a lot of pressure right behind the testicles. Sorry for the graphic language but I couldn't think of a better way to describe it.
That's one of the things that worry me.
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Old 2019-09-14, 08:25 PM   #15
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That's one of the things that worry me.
Thanks.
Yeah, seems a bit ghetto for my liking right now. I'd love to try a 'normal' uni saddle but with this style of handle though to avoid the complexity of the KH but I don't really like the idea of just having a lump of foam duct taped down. Maybe if I had any idea about what sort of shape I DID want and so could mould it to myself
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