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Old 2003-11-05, 05:49 PM   #1
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Arrow unicyclist.com email spam

im getting spammed big time.would enabling any of these help?


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OFF - Open Relay Blackhole System
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should i enable them all? or which ones?
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Old 2003-11-06, 01:09 AM   #2
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I'm quite stoked I haven't been spammed yet at Unicyclist.com (apart from the 'One Track Mind' newsletters from Unicycle.co.nz but I signed up for those). I've been careful about who I've given my email to so far, I don't want those damn third parties getting a hold of it. I don't know what those things are which you're asking Jagur. It's worth a try, Spam stopper might work.
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Old 2003-11-06, 04:48 AM   #3
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They might help. You can give it a try by turning them on and seeing if it does anything for you.

Here's what they each mean:
MAPS Realtime Blackhole List
This IP address list is updated in realtime based on what has been reported to have spam coming from it at that time. IP addresses are only on it until spam is no longer reported coming from that IP address.

MAPS Relay Spam Stopper
List of IP address known to allow email to be relayed through it.

MAPS Dial-Up List
List of IP address that are used by dial-up internet providers, which should not be sending email to begin with (email shoule be sent through ISPs email server and if done otherwise, it's most likely spam).

Open Relay Blackhole System
Another list of servers that allow anyone to send email to anyone through the server.

I get a few hundred spams a day and am currently in the process of phasing out my old email address and keep my new one for "personal" emailing only to prevent spam.
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Old 2003-11-07, 05:23 PM   #4
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Re: unicyclist.com email spam

In article <jagur.wfmqf@NoEmail.Message.Poster.at.Unicyclist.com>,
jagur@NoEmail.Message.Poster.at.Unicyclist.com (jagur) wrote:

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> im getting spammed big time.would enabling any of these help?
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> OFF - MAPS Realtime Blackhole List
> OFF - MAPS Relay Spam Stopper
> OFF - MAPS Dial-Up List
> OFF - Open Relay Blackhole System
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> should i enable them all? or which ones?
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There are several free anti-spam programs on the web. Basically, whenever
you get a spam email, the program can make a bounce message (the ones you
get when you send an email to an address that doesn't exist). The sender
thinks your address doesn't exist, so they stop spamming it. Mailwasher
is apparently good, but I don't know how it works and I think you have to
pay for the full version (Mailwasher Pro).

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Old 2003-11-07, 10:23 PM   #5
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Re: unicyclist.com email spam

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:16 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
joebloggs@hotmail.fake.com (Liam) wrote:

>Mailwasher
>is apparently good, but I don't know how it works


I heard or read that too but had problems installing it. Don't
remember the nature of the problem. Now I rely on my ISP's spam
removal tool which intercepts about 90% of spam and puts it in a
separate pop box for me to manually inspect/delete.

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Old 2003-11-07, 10:37 PM   #6
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spambayes works well for me

http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

it needs a load of your spam to train itself first, or you can train it as you go.

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Old 2003-11-08, 12:04 AM   #7
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Re: Re: unicyclist.com email spam

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There are several free anti-spam programs on the web. Basically, whenever
you get a spam email, the program can make a bounce message (the ones you
get when you send an email to an address that doesn't exist). The sender
thinks your address doesn't exist, so they stop spamming it. Mailwasher
is apparently good, but I don't know how it works and I think you have to
pay for the full version (Mailwasher Pro).
DO NOT. I Repeat DO NOT use a spam program that bounces email. Particularly please don't use mailwasher.

The reasons you shouldn't do this are:-

Firstly, bouncing the email tells the spam sender that your domain is live. This means that they'll try sending mail to pretty much anything they can think of at your domain, so increases the spam.

Secondly, it's not hard to see what a mailwasher bounce message looks like and use that to say that the address is live.

Finally if your address is being sent spam, at some point it will get spoofed as a spam FROM: address. Now what a lot of these dumb programs do is send bounce messages back to where it thinks the email came from. Now strangely enough that's almost never where the spam is actually sent from. So by bouncing the emails, you're helping send thousands of emails to some poor person who is in exactly the same situation as you and making it much worse for them.

My address just got spoofed to send out some spam recently and I've had hundreds of bounce emails from dumbasses who are running mailwasher, so I'm particularly adamant about this at the moment.

Use spambayes like Mike says, or K9 if you use outlook express. Both work well and delete spam without sending tons of rubbish to random people who aren't spammers.

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Old 2003-11-08, 09:10 AM   #8
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Mozilla does bayesian spam filtering right out of the box. It is the way forward...

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Old 2003-11-08, 02:13 PM   #9
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Re: unicyclist.com email spam

In article <joemarshall.wjtfo@NoEmail.Message.Poster.at.Unicyclist.com>,
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> Use spambayes like Mike says, or K9 if you use outlook express. Both
> work well and delete spam without sending tons of rubbish to random
> people who aren't spammers.
>
> Joe


Thanks, Joe. As I said, I've never used Mailwasher - just heard of other
people using it. I don't get much spam, because I fake my address on
newsgroups (I know there are other ways of getting shedloads of spam, but
I'm somehow fairly immune).


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Old 2004-01-16, 11:17 PM   #10
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Jagur once pondered...

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im getting spammed big time.would enabling any of these help?
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OFF - MAPS Realtime Blackhole List
OFF - MAPS Relay Spam Stopper
OFF - MAPS Dial-Up List
OFF - Open Relay Blackhole System
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should i enable them all? or which ones?
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I am in the same boat Jagur is in. And I tried using the spam filters that are provided in webmail, which are listed above.

The issue with those filters is that they take time to run through all of the spam. And they can't finish before a timeout occurs. At least that is what I have experienced. And I tried that back when I was getting roughly 30 spams per day. I'm at about 50+ right now.

I know there have been a lot of suggestions to use various programs to fight the spam. Is there anyone with an account at unicyclist.com who employs such a tactic? I just don't think these programs can work for Jagur and myself or the other account at unicyclist.com. I view my mail from the server using the browser.

I understand that I can try to import the mail to another account, but that is only passing the hundreds of spam messages to another mailbox where I have to contend with it there. I'd like for my unicyclist.com account to be my primary address.

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Old 2004-01-16, 11:39 PM   #11
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Most spammers get your email address off of web pages, so the first step to spam prevention is to not have your email address on any web page. Unfourtunately, once your email address gets harvested off of web pages, there's not much that can be done to stop spam at this point since it's already in the spammer's database. You can use filters on it, but they don't work effectively in my opinion (too many get through and more importantly, too many false positives).

I get several hundred spam emails each day on my mail@gilby.com, which is why I'm phasing that address out. If you've sent email to me at that address and got no response, it's probably because it got lost in with the spam.
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Old 2004-01-17, 12:36 AM   #12
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This message is more for curiosity's sake, but Jagur, why did you decide to put this in Rec.Sport.Unicycling as opposed to Just Conversation?
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Old 2004-01-17, 01:49 AM   #13
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This message is more for curiosity's sake, but Jagur, why did you decide to put this in Rec.Sport.Unicycling as opposed to Just Conversation?
gee,maybe i sould have just put it in the spam bin eh? its more that Just Conversation,thats why...

i just checked my email witch i abandoned 2 months ago (back when i posted this thread) and there are over five-thousand spam messages in there!
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Old 2004-01-17, 04:23 AM   #14
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i just checked my email witch i abandoned 2 months ago (back when i posted this thread) and there are over five-thousand spam messages in there!
i did that too... just checked it and i'm up to 4504...

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Old 2004-01-17, 04:30 AM   #15
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