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Old 2016-03-15, 03:12 AM   #1
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I'll vote for Sanders tomorrow, then Trump

Big Tuesday tomorrow in Florida. I want Sanders but my prediction is he will not get the nom.

Why then will I vote Trump ? Because he is not the establishment choice of the health insurance billionaires, big pharma, or the prison industrial complex, Hillory is.

At least Trump is not Hillory.
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Old 2016-03-15, 01:27 PM   #2
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I'm voting for PeeWee Herman for the same reason.
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Old 2016-03-15, 03:14 PM   #4
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Old 2016-03-16, 02:45 AM   #5
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You know I used to think that american politics was kind of simple with only two parties and a polarized population. That was before this whole election before the election thing. And the fact that each party does it differently but at the same time and each state has it's own delegate allotment rules really makes me scratch my head.


So once a delegate is selected do they get to change their minds? Are there a crap-load of delegates who truly support each candidate hoping to get on the list so they can vote for their prospective party leader? A certain number of delegates who are told who to vote for by the rules of each state? or are they even people? just a number of "votes" in this messed up version of democracy?
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Old 2016-03-16, 05:25 AM   #6
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I'm voting for PeeWee Herman for the same reason.
And a vote for PeeWee is not a vote for Trump, which has to be a good thing. Yes, Trump is anti-establishment. Or at least he's anti-political establishment. But he's also anti-minorities, anti-women, anti one whole major religion, and especially anti-truth. Trump's stance on things changes from day to day, as does his recollection of what he said yesterday. I have to believe that the only thing that motivates Trump is anything that builds Trump's ego or the Trump brand. He does not care about anything else, at least beyond whether or not it makes him look good/tough/successful/endowed in a manly way.

Not that I have an opinion about that.

I wish I could vote for Kasich, but it's unlikely we will get the chance. He's the only candidate I actually like, and I like him a lot. He seems like old-school presidential material; someone we can actually look up to.

Alfred E. Neuman is honest about his idiocy. That alone makes him a better choice than Trump.
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And the fact that each party does it differently but at the same time and each state has it's own delegate allotment rules really makes me scratch my head.
That's partially explained by the long name of our country, United States of America. So the states have some degree of autonomy, and some like to be more autonomous than others.
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Are there a crap-load of delegates who truly support each candidate hoping to get on the list so they can vote for their prospective party leader? A certain number of delegates who are told who to vote for by the rules of each state? or are they even people? just a number of "votes" in this messed up version of democracy?
We're a democratic republic, though I'm not sure if that has anything to do with our odd election process. If not anything else, it helps to prolong the agony of picking our next leader.

And you forgot to ask about the Electoral College...
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Old 2016-03-16, 01:21 PM   #7
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being a babyboomer I still stick to the (naïve?) optimistic ideals of the sixties.... and I am stunned by the proliferations of hateniks all over Europe and sad to discover this is also mainstream in the US
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Old 2016-03-16, 01:24 PM   #8
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Wow, what rhetoric. I'm changing my vote to John Foss!
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Old 2016-03-16, 09:29 PM   #9
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Yeah, Kaish won Ohio, maybe the GOP will nominate him instead of Trump, even if Trump wins. Also, it looks like Berny is out, no surprises there.

The electoral college is insane, but sadly it appears that we are stuck with it.
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Old 2016-03-20, 01:17 PM   #10
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I kinda like the electoral collage

If we need a recount, we only have to do one state, not 50. Since a corrupt election may only effect the results in one state, it limits the ambitions of corrupt people, a basic function of good governance. Inflating the margin of victory or number of votes in your bought out state has no effect on the electoral collage.
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Old 2016-03-20, 06:57 PM   #11
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The right to vote is important, but the Democratic Party of Racism and War and the Republican Party of Racism and War do not deserve your vote unless you own a bank or something.
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Old 2017-07-08, 03:15 PM   #12
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Trump is anti-establishment. Or at least he's anti-political establishment. But he's also anti-minorities, anti-women, anti one whole major religion, and especially anti-truth. Trump's stance on things changes from day to day, as does his recollection of what he said yesterday. I have to believe that the only thing that motivates Trump is anything that builds Trump's ego or the Trump brand. He does not care about anything else, at least beyond whether or not it makes him look good/tough/successful/endowed in a manly way.
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Remember when people said he'd get more presidential after he was in office?
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Remember when people said he'd get more presidential after he was in office?
I'm old enough to remember when they said he'd get more presidential after the primaries were over.
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Old 2017-07-09, 02:04 AM   #14
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When first we practise to deceive!"
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Neither of the above quotes applies to Donald Trump. Everyone knows he's a pathological liar. I assume that, if Hillary Clinton were president right now, and if she lied to the public, she would at the very least be aware of the truth she hid from the public. Maybe the typical Trump supporter prefers a flat out liar over a sneaky liar.
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