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Old 2019-12-02, 08:26 PM   #16
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Well, the nice folks over at unicycle.com were able to intercept my order and swap it out for a nimbus 24" (I'm 6' tall). I'll pick up a 29er if I survive the 24.

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Excellent outcome! Get comfortable, learn to ride, mount and turn.... then consider the 29er.

Btw, 24 and 26 are the sizes I enjoy the most. Good maneuverability, yet much less pedalling needed than on a 20. I'm 5'5". I'd even ride distances over 10km on them to go places. (For some reason I feel more camber issues on a 29". Maybe because I don't have as much experience on it).

Anyway, good luck!
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Old 2019-12-02, 08:44 PM   #17
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If you are not wanting to tear up your plastic seat bumpers while you learn, I have used white athletic tape cut in strips to cover them up. They get banged up after while so I swapped them out occasionally. Once I wasn't falling as much I removed the tape. Note...you always fall at some point which is half the fun and what the bumpers are good for.... how you fall is the key.
Nice tip, thanks!

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Old 2019-12-02, 10:53 PM   #18
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For some reason I feel more camber issues on a 29
Gockie, sorry, stupid questions follow ... what are 'camber issues'?
I assume that the road camber makes it hard to ride a uni straight right?
Do you always need to re-change your direction against the camber?
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Old 2019-12-03, 03:05 AM   #19
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Gockie, sorry, stupid questions follow ... what are 'camber issues'?
I assume that the road camber makes it hard to ride a uni straight right?
Do you always need to re-change your direction against the camber?
It's hard to ride straight when there's road camber. Most unis I have no issues. Others are simply horrid!

When I feel camber, I end up with my body tilted to one side, (very uncomfortable to ride) and when it's really bad an arm is needed, waving about like a beginner to stay mounted.

Sometimes you just have to look for the flattest piece of road ahead, even if its towards the centre of the road.
I've been told to move my foot to the outside of the pedal on the low side, but it's not that easy to do while riding (some pedals have pins for better grip, but it means you really have to think about taking your foot off to change its position on the pedal.)

I think tyres with greater cross section volume have this issue more than smaller tyres, and maybe the tyre's wall stiffness is involved. Certainly tyre pressure is involved, making the uni more or less susceptible to camber. Worth trying to swap tyres and trying different air pressures to find what is best.
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Old 2019-12-13, 05:40 AM   #20
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Neophyte on a Nimbus

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Old 2019-12-14, 08:23 AM   #21
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Excellent! You're trying a "curb mount", and this was the technique that eventually got me riding.

One tip: get some flat shoes. Skate shoes (e.g. Vans), or best of all flat MTB shoes (e.g. 5 10s). Running shoes have a "lip" around the heel which catches the crank, instant UPD. When you're learning, less grip is better to avoid falls where your feet get tangled with the pedals. Later, you'll want as much grip as possible.

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Old 2019-12-14, 10:42 AM   #22
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Running shoes have a "lip" around the heel which catches the crank, instant UPD.

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Great tip! That lip is so annoying when your foot is in the wrong place on the pedal.

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Excellent! You're trying a "curb mount",
Never got the idea of the kerb mount. Besides the obvious, there may not always be a kerb to mount from, from the start it trains you to allow pressure on the rear foot which is such a bad habit. For a static mount the only freemount video you'll ever need is from forum member @UniMyra .
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Old 2019-12-14, 10:45 AM   #23
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You are doing ok so far. But, maybe, find a pole to help you get on, then try riding.

I would only try to learn to mount after getting some riding balance, too much mounting failure initially might hinder your overall riding progress. My 2 cents only though.

I used a railing as I said, and you may or may not choose to use one.
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Old 2019-12-14, 04:00 PM   #24
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I agree with Gockie. Go find a pole or a fence. You are adding an extra layer of difficulty to your mount. You are having to stay balanced while getting your second foot on the pedal. Your second foot, as a result, is not landing on the second pedal at the best spot. You are landing too close to the heel, and that is partly why you keep stepping of the front, rather than riding forward.

Also, your mount tries to transition from placing more weight on the back pedal...to placing more weight on the front pedal. With a wall or fence, you will be able to start in a more neutral position, where your weight is roughly centered over the hub. Then you lean forward (the same motion you make before moving your feet when you walk forward from a stand-still), and you are pretty much forced to put pressure on the front pedal and start moving forward.

Of the five attempts you made in the video, #4 could have resulted in a bad fall. Both your feet left the pedals while your butt was still on the seat. How to avoid that...easier said than done. Holding the seat handle with one hand is an option. You will learn the appropriate position to bail out from the pedals, but as a beginner, things can be pretty awkward. Safety gear.

Thanks for sharing the video, BHChieftain! Keep experimenting, put in the time, stay safe and keep sharing your progress.
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Old 2019-12-14, 04:43 PM   #25
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Thanks for the tips! I really appreciate it.

To clarify what I was doing at that point-- I was following the method from this video (assisted free mounting): https://youtu.be/U4nAn7yBXSM

I realize that starting with assisted free mounting probably isn't the common approach but I wanted to give it a try.

Steps listed there are
1) rear foot on uni, sit and step completely over the uni a bunch of times
2) rear foot on uni, sit and touch the front pedal and step off
3) rear foot on uni, sit and pedal 1/2 revolution and step off
4) then 1.5 revolutions and step off
5) then try riding down the street...

I was on step 2 in the video I posted. Yesterday I got to step 3

I think I have about 100 "mounts" under my belt, and had 2 tough falls. And a few shin barks...

A couple of times I found that "magic" point where i felt very in control with a slow 1/2 pedal forward and a clean dismount.

I think I'll change things up a bit today and try just riding around from a pole.

Now that I'm actually moving the uni forward a bit, I don't like the idea of that deck step behind me...

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Old 2019-12-14, 06:05 PM   #26
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Ok, I tried to start from a static position with a wall and it felt way more unstable than my assisted free mount given that I've done so many of those now-- especially the side to side balance. I think I'll stick with the original plan until I feel like I'm hitting a wall (or the pavement...).

Since last time
1) Significantly upped the body armor, including hiking boots
2) Moved to the street to avoid slamming into the deck step in case i fall backwards
3) Using a small brick as my backstop
4) Learning to lean forward *before* trying to pedal with the front foot.

I'm trying to do a 1/2 rotation with a forward dismount.

https://youtu.be/ir3sAFZVHm4

Pretty happy with today's results! Got in about 25 "mounts" and no falls.

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Old 2019-12-14, 07:55 PM   #27
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Ok, I tried to start from a static position with a wall and it felt way more unstable than my assisted free mount given that I've done so many of those now-- especially the side to side balance. I think I'll stick with the original plan until I feel like I'm hitting a wall (or the pavement...).

Since last time
1) Significantly upped the body armor, including hiking boots
2) Moved to the street to avoid slamming into the deck step in case i fall backwards
3) Using a small brick as my backstop
4) Learning to lean forward *before* trying to pedal with the front foot.

I'm trying to do a 1/2 rotation with a forward dismount.

https://youtu.be/ir3sAFZVHm4

Pretty happy with today's results! Got in about 25 "mounts" and no falls.

Chief
Now I know what you were trying to do, and seeing your second video, I’ll take my comments back.
Seriously good work on getting the freemounting down so quickly. I think you are one quick learner.
I reckon you might end up riding very soon.

One thing, the flattest part of your street is right in the middle. I can see your street has camber. Maybe try starting from the middle of your street (or go to a big empty car park to ride and stay out of the way of traffic).
Wishing you the best
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Old 2019-12-14, 08:46 PM   #28
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Ok, I tried to start from a static position with a wall and it felt way more unstable than my assisted free mount given that I've done so many of those now-- especially the side to side balance. I think I'll stick with the original plan until I feel like I'm hitting a wall (or the pavement...).
One of the good things about your approach is that you won't have to wean yourself off a crutch. At some point, though, you'll have to transition away from the backstop. I suppose you can progressively use smaller and smaller backstops, and as long as you don't roll backwards over the backstop while mounting, you'll be working toward a real static mount.

I noticed that you are consistently mounting with the left foot back. When you do 1/2 revolution then dismount, you are dismounting in a safe pedal position, which is good. In real life, however, you are going to be dismounting with either foot down. For this reason, I think you should practice mounting with either foot back. Not so much for the sake of the mount, but for the sake of the dismount.

Seems like you're approaching unicycling in a well-thought-out fashion, breaking things down into discrete steps. At some point, when you start riding more than one revolution, you will need to embrace the chaos of flailing arms, panting and instinctive twiitchiness. It will not be possible to be in control or to feel in control all the time.

Thanks again for sharing!
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Old 2019-12-14, 10:07 PM   #29
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Now I know what you were trying to do, and seeing your second video, I’ll take my comments back.
Seriously good work on getting the freemounting down so quickly. I think you are one quick learner.
I reckon you might end up riding very soon.

One thing, the flattest part of your street is right in the middle. I can see your street has camber. Maybe try starting from the middle of your street (or go to a big empty car park to ride and stay out of the way of traffic).
Wishing you the best
Edit: I didn’t see the block of wood... but it looks ok so far though
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Old 2019-12-15, 05:54 PM   #30
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Day5

Still working on 1/2 revolution, feeling much better.

https://youtu.be/TDErDo_uegs

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PS, the camber in the street isn't that bad-- it's the wide angle lens making it look worse that it is. It's pretty flat where I'm standing

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